Strang Report: Life As We Know It Will End If Obama Is Elected

Thursday, October 9, 2008

Life As We Know It Will End If Obama Is Elected

I was amazed that during the presidential debate this week Sen. John McCain didn't make the point that if Sen. Barack Obama is elected, life as we know it in many ways will end. America will be more socialized and have less free enterprise and freedom.

It seems that due to the current economic crisis, a percentage of Americans are clamoring for change in the White House. Unfortunately, they don't seem to realize that change will mean gay rights will be encoded into law and abortion rights laws will be strengthened. The result will be an alteration in our entire social structure and the likelihood that Roe v. Wade—the case that led to the legalization of abortion--will never be overturned. Recently someone sent me a video put out by Roman Catholics on the sanctity of life. Take time to watch it at www.catholicvote.com. It makes the point that protecting human life from conception to natural death is one of the most important responsibilities we have as Christians.

I believe if Obama is elected, the government will tax, tax, tax the citizens who are most productive. Yet it's been proven that tax increases lead to economic downturn, while tax cuts lead to economic growth (which we desperately need). There will also be a “take from the rich, give to the poor” type of socialistic mind-set throughout the nation. And I believe our country will be weaker militarily around the world.

In addition, people who hate Christianity will be emboldened to attack our freedoms. Christianity is already persona non grata in academia and in the liberal media. People such as Bill Maher and Michael Moore, who hate God and God's people, will think the election verifies that the nation as a whole believes as they do and will jump for glee. Meanwhile, Christians seem almost asleep. There is no outcry! And there is a group of Bible-believing Christians who appear to have decided to overlook how dangerous Obama will be and plan to vote for him anyway.

A few weeks ago McCain and Obama were even in the polls. However, the economic crisis seems to have pushed some Americans toward Obama. So in the 25 days to the election we must pray as never before. And we must work to wake up Christians. That is what happened late in the 2004 election—Christian leaders rallied believers, and as a result, George W. Bush was re-elected president.

Even though polls are often right, there are exceptions, and we must pray and work--before it’s too late--to see that Obama is not elected. I receive lots of interesting e-mails having to do with the election and the issues surrounding current culture wars. Below is some of what someone sent me and urged me to pass on. There are links to several interesting videos that you should take the time to watch. Much of what you will see is disturbing. I urge you to forward the information below to your friends.

The only reason Obama is competitive is because people do not really know who and what he stands for.

Barack Obama’s Views:

Endorsed by:
- ACLU
- AFL-CIO
- National Trial Lawyers Groups
- NARAL
- Planned Parenthood
- Homosexual and atheist advocacy groups
- Moveon.org
- Radical leftist national groups

These groups have provided the largest support for his campaign, along with the Saudis. And every one of them hates serious Christians and Zionist Jews. How can a Christian or a Jew vote with them? He promised the trial lawyers that he will fight against Tort Reform.

He promised the unions to vote for the Union Intimidation Act (aka Employee Free Choice Act)--a laughable name for legislation that will devastate American jobs. He promised the abortionists to vote for the Abortion Anytime Act (aka the Freedom of Choice Act).

He promised the homosexuals that he will support the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, and he is already fighting the California Marriage Amendment. And he has no experience! Hello?

Serious Political Videos and Articles that Expose the Truth about Barack Obama

Article: See Obama’s Illegal Campaign Contributions
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html?s=al&promo_code=6BD9-1

Video Clip: Mohammar Khaddafi on Barack Obama. Quite real and quite damning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSemkPChvHo

Video Clip: A History of Barack Obama’s Life and Politics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE

Video Clip: Barack Obama on Defense Spending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw

Video Clip: Little-Known Barack Obama Scandals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawN7uJ8s8s

Video Clip: Hillary Shreds Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQadAAlK9c4

Video Clip: Biden Slams Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV14xqelWxY

Video Clip: The Hypocrisy of the Liberal Media Exposed in Their Attack on Sarah Palin’s Prayer for the Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4Jjyrs

Video Clip: School Children Sing Praises of Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08iomNFrzU4

I know many of you are as disturbed as I am. I think this information on Obama speaks for itself. Let's pray for a shift in our country. And let's get this information into the hands of as many people as possible. If you missed my endorsement of John McCain, click here.

And be sure to add your thoughts to the blog.

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347 Comments:

At October 9, 2008 2:24 PM , dschmus said...

I'm with you, but by suggesting that the comments of Gaddafi that Obama is a Muslim should be taken seriously, you are damaging our credibility and hurting our cause.

If we are going to criticize Obama, let's not give in to smears and rumors. Let's pray.
At October 9, 2008 3:06 PM , Anonymous said...

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At October 9, 2008 3:16 PM , Paul Wheate said...

Steve Strang

If the biggest issue you think facing the US and the world for that matter is abortion, gay rights and increasing YOUR personal income tax then shame on you. Never miss an opportunity to sling mud and then at the bottom of an email try and sell a book! You are irrelevant.
At October 9, 2008 3:23 PM , daly.de.gagne@gmail.com said...

I agree with the comment about not giving in to smears. Your Strang Report has a hysterical tone to it, that undermines your own credibility as someone able to tell differences between the two politicians.

In the debate you didn't notice the "that one" reference made to Obama by McCain -- a reference that has been interpreted as many to mean "the other," ie.the way some "good" Christians with all the "right" moral values used to refer to people of color back in the day.

And you failed to notice that the McCain team used that reference in a subsequent release.

And you failed to pick up on the growing atmosphere of hatred created by a very small minority of McCain supporters, but which he has yet to speak out about, and which is very risky given the fact that his opponent is Afro-American.

Now you buy into the Gaddafi comments -- and I am willing to bet it is probably the first time you have given credence to anything he has said.

And then the fear mongering about the specter of socialism, which is ludicrous. Some social programs that are lacking would reflect a spirit of compassion, would help to decrease the number of poor, would work on problems related to crime -- but it is more important to preserve the inalienable rights of free enterprise -- never mind that many people cannot get decent medical care in the world's most technologically advanced nation. Is ideological purity more important than how people can afford to live? Do you truly understand what it is like to be on the bottom rungs of American society?

The litmus test of your column for me is whether it sounds like something Jesus would say to His followers -- for me, I am afraid, it sounds more like someone who has more in common with Joe McCarthy or other far right wingers, hardly known for their compassion than with the common folk and sinners with whom Jesus was so criticized for spending time with.

Jesus said something about not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" getting the point as to what His message and kingdom were all about. As charismatics we trust in the Holy Spirit to be the source and mover of change, in which case it may well be that your emphasis on the election in His name is elevating much that should be left to personal choice to the level of an edict of faith, as well as ideology.

Daly de Gagne
At October 9, 2008 3:33 PM , Joel Stephan said...

I actually agree with your post in its entirety.

The American people really have no idea who Barack Obama is, and the mainstream news seems to be mysteriously protecting his past from inquiries one would normally expect from reporters.

As for people calling you crazy and given to hysteria... I think true followers of Christ always look a little bit crazy to the world. I'm guessing that's why people said about Jesus, "He has a devil".

The implications that are laid out for this election are clear. A return to traditional Christian values, or an even greater embrace of Secular Humanism.

I think God is about to wake the church up in America, with the sounds of war on our very own shores.
At October 9, 2008 4:06 PM , Anonymous said...

Obviously fear and anxiety are rempant in our society right now, with reason. Hopefully it will cause more people to truly look to God for wisdom and for peace, no matter what happens. Assuming only Christians are getting this report, seeing the division even here shows how much success the devil is having in stirring up trouble. May God help us. He will, if we submit to Him.
At October 9, 2008 4:39 PM , Kathleen said...

I never thought I'd be ashamed of something that came out of Charisma Magazine founder Steve Strang . . . but I am now.
I am a faithful bible-believing follower of Jesus Christ. The fear-mongering and borderline racism, the over-the-top alarmist rhetoric of this article is absolutely reprehensible.
A comment about the Gaddafi clip in particular: first of all, Gaddafi is a madman and I can't believe any intelligent person would take seriously what he says; secondly, if you ARE going to take seriously what he says, then LISTEN to what he says-- he says that Obama is disappointing him and all the Arab world because he's not following their script!
Steven, I think it would be most appropriate for you to issue an aplogy for the very un-Christian tone of this letter. I certainly can't imagine those words and emotions coming from Jesus.
At October 9, 2008 4:41 PM , Cherie said...

GOD CARES ABOUT MORE THAN ABORTION AND GAY MARRIAGE!!!

Obama IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!
He DOES NOT endorse Gay Marriage!!!

What about the poor...Jesus cares about the poor...unlike the typical Republican..

Some Christians should be ashamed...no balance...what about all of the racism that exists in the Republican party?
What about all of the lies that McCain and Palin are telling...i guess because they are republicans, God is overlooking all of that huh?

GOD IS NOT A REPUBLICAN..
At October 9, 2008 4:47 PM , rrutter said...

In an era where being a Christian almost seems to carry a negative connotation as someone who lacks the intellectual rigor to think for himself and form an intelligent opinion. I do believe there are still such things as moral absolutes, and those that would argue to the contrary are those that would benefit from the lack thereof. People can say that the most important thing is the economy and the war, and everything else is insignificant, but that is not the case. In fact, it is the lack of moral absolutes that has led our country to this position we are in. Without accountability, everything can be spun to suit a persons own needs. To say change for the sake of change is a good thing is not only naive but foolish. I do not know if all of the things being said about Obama are true or not, nor do I care. I know what Obama himself says, and that alone is enough reason not to vote for him. Giving tax cuts for one to the lower income bracket may make plenty of voters happy, but in the end it will do almost nothing to entice large corporations to step up production and stimulate job creation. Once that big screen TV is purchased and the $1200 is gone, we are right back where we started. To increase the tax on the companies that are already suffering due to recession will in the end only hurt an already faltering economy. In addition, I can also say that the idea of a socialized medical system scares me literally to death. When excellence is not rewarded you are rewarding mediocrity, and I would prefer my physician not be mediocre. I personally don’t want my health care run like the DMV. I only ask that those who are voting for Obama for the sole reason that he is a change in Washington then you are doing all of us a great disservice. Obama’s record speaks for itself, he is just another extremely liberal Democrat, yes he is against the war, and yes he will change things her and abroad, but will it be for the better, I think not. Once Obama is in office it will be too late, we as Christians will have to sit back and watch everything we really care about made into even more of a farce. I do know what it is like to be on the bottom rung of society, making just enough to support my family. In the end we all have to do our part to make this world a better place, by contributing to society using the gifts the lord has given us. I have spent the last 14 years as an Officer in the United States Marine Corps, serving 3 combat tours, and I can tell you this; I would rather be sitting in Iraq knowing I was doing what is right and just, than leaving them to spiral into chaos. Doing what is right isn’t always the easy thing, in fact it rarely is, but doing the right thing is what Jesus would do, everytime. Right now it seems the easy thing to do is vote for an unproven, untested, and I believe an unreliable proponent for change. Take away the slogan, he is just another liberal democrat who’s beliefs are in direct contradiction to the bible, there is no debating that, spin it how you like, but you may want to read the bible and check out its views on homosexuality, no gray area. As far as abortion I can only say I am pretty sure Jesus would not fall in on the side of Roe vs Wade.
At October 9, 2008 4:49 PM , Rick Moore said...

WHY I CAN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA
by Rick Moore

I sit near a wonderful Christian lady at work. Her actions, her words, where she puts her treasure, and even the music she hums so beautifully all give testimony to where her heart is.

She is a believer in the Resurrected Jesus. She is black. And she is voting for Obama.

I believe the 2008 presidential election is the only thing she and I have ever disagreed about. She is sweet and I would do anything in my power for her as a friend ... no, a sister.

But, when candidates are spoken about (even in the most neutral reference) the tension is almost palpable.

Before this campaign became so close and so hardly fought for, she and I always enjoyed laughter and fellowship. We still do, but infrequently. And sadly, I know why.

She thinks I have a hidden corner of racism in my heart. And not just me -- anyone who is voting for John McCain.

Yesterday, she heard another believer and I speaking in the little alcove where all the employees go for coffee. She heard us agree that the McCain/Palin camp is right to go after Obama on the character issues. She turned brusquely and left the area. And once again, my heart felt very heavy.

I am not rejoicing that Senator Obama's character is being examined because he is black. I affirm that strategy because everything about his life previous to running for president points to the fact that he is liberal ... and wrong. As Oral Roberts once said (in an entirely different context), rotten wrong.

If I went to Rush Limbaugh's house for a 'coffee' to launch my political career, you would be correct in assuming that I am conservative.

OBAMA WENT TO BILL AYERS' HOUSE.

If I worked with Bill Bennett on an educational program for school children, you could infer that I believe in education rooted in the classics and Judeo-Christian principles.

OBAMA WORKED WITH BILL AYERS.

If I built a resume like Mitt Romney did: saved the Salt Lake City Olympics, was governor of a state, and became a very successful businessman, you could assume I am a leader and serious about preparing myself for the highest executive office in the land.

SHORTLY A YEAR AFTER BEING A U. S. SENATOR, BARACK OBAMA (BUOYED BY THE ACCOLADES HE RECEIVED FOR HIS 2004 DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION SPEECH) DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

If I voted against third trimester abortions, you would surmise that I believe in the sanctity of human life.

BARACK OBAMA SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO A THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTION.

If I sought ways to make affordable free market health care available to all Americans, you could assume that I believe that your dollars are best spent in a competitive market and not by Washington bureaucrats, who have no incentive to make a profit (and therefore provide the best product at a competitive price).

OBAMA WANTS THE GOVERNMENT VERY INVOLVED IN HEALTHCARE.

If I went to a church that preached that "Jesus loves the little children of the world -- red and yellow, black and white", you could believe that I had found the grace of the Living God, because I love my brother who I can see (I John).

OBAMA WENT TO A CHURCH (FOR 20 YEARS) THAT PROPAGATES THE RACIALLY DIVISIVE AND ERRONEOUS BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY.

Simply put, after all the campaign speeches are done (and even the professional fact checkers disagree on what is true and what is false), when you get behind the voting booth curtain, you will vote for who you can trust.

There are reasons to distrust John McCain. There are many, many more reasons to distrust Barack Obama.

With all that said ... I miss my friend. I think I will ask her to join myself and others for lunch November 5 and maybe I will hear her easy, joyful laugh again.
At October 9, 2008 5:01 PM , God is not spelled G-O-P said...

About claims that Obama is, or ever was, a Muslim - please see these completely non-political web sites that examine urban legends:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
At October 9, 2008 5:08 PM , Anonymous said...

I wonder how much money has been poured into Steve's pocket by the republican party. He is doing the dirty work for them. He fears that he will lose his fringe benefits if Obama is elected. What a shame to use a christian magazine to promote lies. Be careful, God will judge you.

Although Obama is not a perfect man, God can still use him and shame the elite racists. People, don't be deceived, God is not a respector of persons.
At October 9, 2008 5:13 PM , Anonymous said...

Actually, I think the poster right above me is the liar.

Strang does not get money from the Republicans. Try to prove otherwise or basically, shut up.
At October 9, 2008 5:17 PM , Anonymous said...

Great article. You are right that rumors do us no good. I read the link to the "Obama fundraising, Mc Cain needs to come out with a much stronger approach. The mainstream media will not pick it up up unless there threats of criminal charges/allegations. There are so many things wrong with Obama that we could be here all night.
At October 9, 2008 5:19 PM , john robinson said...

I would like to say this more diplomatically, but I don't want to waste anyone's time or to confuse people by beating around the bush.

It is not a black man per se that most of us object to (most of us cheer on black men like Pastor Keith Butler, former Congressman J. C. Watts, and scores of anointed black pastors and singers, not to mention the myriad number of black lay believers we deeply enjoy the fellowship of).

It is a certain TYPE of black man we object to --- and Barack Obama is that type. What type you ask? Simply put, the liberal, deceitful type.

What do I mean by liberal? The kind of Robin Hood, take-from-the-middle-class-and-give-to-the-poor, class-envy spouting philosophy often advocated by Democrats. The redistribution of wealth is not the way for all Americans to reach prosperity. Hard work is. To further explain liberal to you, I mean the kind of candidate that will look the other way while gruesome third-trimester abortions are performed, usually for no better reason than the inconvenience the poor child would have caused some irresponsible couple. I mean the kind of candidate that seems to be always be able to see good in our enemies, but derisively mocks fellow conservative citizens.

What do I mean by deceitful? Senator Obama has worked very, very hard to cover up that he is the kind of liberal I just spelled out for you. He very cunningly --- and deceitfully --- portrays himself as a friend of evangelicals (unless he is is in San Francisco, of course!), and a moderate candidate. When you hang out with Black Liberation theologian Jeremiah Wright, left-wing kook Father Pfleger, the far left-wing political shakedown organization Acorn, and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, you are not moderate --- and if you portray yourself that way to win an election, you are deceitful.

That's the kind of black man I don't like. In fact, I don't like white men, red men, yellow men, or any men like that.

So, quit the false accusation of racism. Having had the whole thing explained to you, to go on mischaracterizing opposition to Obama as racist might, in fact, be deceitful on your part, as well.
At October 9, 2008 5:26 PM , Anonymous said...

55,000,000 babies have been killed as a result of Obama's parties decisions. As a christian, I don't see how ANY christian can vote for or support that (black or white).
At October 9, 2008 5:30 PM , www.iglesiavida.com said...

I have to speak up to defend America. I'm an inmigrant from Cuba who came to this country in search of the moral strengh and the freedom that this country of ours offers to its citizens. After traveling to many nations of the world I have learned that America is the greatest nation on the face of this earth. Barack Obama is a good man, as a human being I like him, however it is his phylosophy of life that is lethal, toxic, and if elected will push this nation into the darkest night. As a socialist-liberal hybrid senator Obama beleives that freedom is free, morality should be a choice and misery should spread out equally. Senator Obama hates corporations like wal-mart and exxon mobil, but he loves the corporation called government. He hates the fact that this corporations make huge profits, but loves the idea to enriched the corporation called government. He doesn't mind give you a helping hand so you can prosper, but once you do he wants half of what you make.

this is a very dark hour. Chavez, Evo Morales, Daniel Ortega, the Castro brothers, Obama. Is socialism headed to the USA? I don't know, but I pray that if that's the case then let revival and spiritual awakenings break out every where in this nation. people want change but they don't know what it might bring with it. Sometimes the worst punisment from above is when God let us have what we want.

Pray, pray and pray but also speak, speak and speak. Fight or lose this country to the left.

jc
At October 9, 2008 5:32 PM , Anonymous said...

Steve: I so appreciate your candor and risk-taking by standing so strong against Obama. Please let your readers know that the leftist websites have asked their members and subscribers to get on websites like this one to repeat Democratic talking points on the blogs and boards of Christians and conservatives. It is an incredibly well conceived and executed campaign of disinformation and deception, seeking to divide and neuter Christian voters. So far it is working flawlessly. Only the LORD can deliver us, so I join you and prayer!
At October 9, 2008 5:32 PM , samuel strong said...

Thank you IGLESIAVIDIA ...

You are a great American!!!
At October 9, 2008 5:32 PM , gevans712 said...

Thank you Steve, for speaking the truth.

There was a great book written in 1990 by a great preacher, Derek Prince, called "Blessing Or Curse: You Can Choose" - and in chapter 7 where he is writing about what the Bible says about types of disobedience that can bring God's curse upon someone, he writes:
"The next form of conduct in the list of Deuteronomy 27 is oppression and injustice, especially against the weak and the helpless. There are certainly many such examples of such behavior in our contemporary culture, but none is more likely to provoke God's curse than the deliberate aborting of an unborn infant. Who is more helpless and incapable of self-defense than a baby in its mother's womb, if its own parents do not protect it?"
"How strange that people who are active in the fight against racial prejudice and injustice - and rightly so - actually condone and promote the practice of abortion! Strange, too, that people who would never think of raising a hand in violence against a small child feel no compassion toward an even smaller child in its mother's womb. Somehow the substitution of the word fetus dulls people's consciences. Yet the change in terminology in no way affects the real nature of such an act."

While I know that we should forgive those who have committed the sin of abortion - what does it say of us that we not only permit such an act as legal, but we actually, as a nation, encourage it through our tax dollars going to organizations such as Planned Parenthood, the largest provider of abortions in this country!! AND, what does it say about you as a Christian if, now that you know this to be true, you allow your voice to remain silent!!!??? How will God deal with you if you sit idly by while such things happen - consider the verse I quoted above and ask yourself, what would God have you do about this????

We still have so far to go in our fight against abortion - abortions have decreased in the U.S., but still millions of babies are being killed. We are just one Supreme Court justice away from having the chance to actually overturn Roe vs. Wade... now don't you see why the stakes in the election are so high??? There is nothing in Obama or Biden's records to indicate that they will do anything other than allow and even promote an unrestricted access to abortion - even the partial-birth abortion process. This is clear from the candidate's own words above - as it is clear that McCain and Palin believe that life begins at conception - to see it clearly in black and white, just compare Obama's and McCain's party platforms that are linked above. And remember that Obama had to back track on what he said at first - he DID oppose the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act" - just read to confirm: (http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ExactBillKilledbyObama.html)

Lastly... and I am SURE that this is the most loaded part... what about racism? We certainly have a clear history of it in this country. I grew up around it and it sickened me!! I have lived my life in a way to respect people with no regard to their race. My Friend, I think you can vouch for this and to how my family has loved yours! HOWEVER, is it not just as racist to vote FOR someone simply because of race, as it would be to vote AGAINST them because of race? I think racism in ALL of its forms is vile!! However, this brings up the issue of the church that Obama attended for twenty years - would you not call that a racist church? We have all seen the clips of Jeremiah Wright - I don't think that is the type of church that ANYONE we know would want to attend. Yet it goes further, we see that this church has embraced the doctrines of Black Liberation Theology (I read this on the church web site myself) - and dear brother, I do not see how someone espousing these beliefs, or i nfluenced by these beliefs, can lead to any kind of unity in our country.

Why do I say this? OK, lets look at the writings of this "Theology" - (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology)

Quoting from writings of this "Theology":
"We cannot solve ethical questions of the twentieth century by looking at what Jesus did in the first. Our choices are not the same as his. Being Christians does not mean following 'in his steps.'" [Black Theology and Black Power, Page 139]
"All white men are responsible for white oppression. It is much too easy to say, "Racism is not my fault," or "I am not responsible for the country's inhumanity to the black man...But insofar as white do-gooders tolerate and sponsor racism in their educational institutions, their political, economic and social structures, their churches, and in every other aspect of American life, they are directly responsible for racism...Racism is possible because whites are indifferent to suffering and patient with cruelty. Karl Jaspers' description of metaphysical guilt is pertinent here. 'There exists among men, because they are men, a solidarity through which each shares responsibility for every injustice and every wrong committed in the world, and especially for crimes that are committed in his presence or of which he cannot be ignorant.'" [Black Theology and Black Power, Page 24]

My friend, I know you don't believe these types of doctrines!! You don't believe that this is what the Bible teaches... do you? I am certain you don't - and I don't even think you COULD believe these things - but please tell me if I am wrong. However, this is the type of church teaching that Obama was "saved" under, married under and he sat under for twenty years! Switch it around and ask yourself, if a white candidate had gone to a church that was this extreme in the opposite direction, how would YOU feel about that? And, how would you feel about ME if I supported such a person???

My Friend, I know that there are spiritual forces at work in this election - the "prince of the power of the air" - Ephsians 2:2. We know that Islamic terrorists see the United States as their greatest obstacle to establishing their worldwide Islamic caliphate - note: I said the terrorists! We also know that there are many others who want to establish a very much non-Christian moral value system in the United States - homosexual marriage, open and rampant pornography, a denial of a belief in God Himself, those who want to see the US become communist (Ayers, etc.), teaching to grade-schoolers that homosexuality is OK, thosw who suport the LGBT agenda (Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender)... and all of these groups are unified in their support of Barack Obama!!! Now Friend, you know there is a devil, who do you think he is supporting in this election? All I know is that all of those we most identify as being supportive of his agenda (direct opposition to or twisting of Christianit y) are supporting Barack Obama!!! You have got to pray about this some more!!!

And to me it all goes back to LIFE.... Barack Obama has consistently supported abortion - and unrestricted abortion at that - in all of his recorded voting - both in Illinois and the US Senate. You can repeat his rhetoric all you want, but actions are the purest proof of a man's heart - He has never once voted to restrict abortion in any way. I cannot and I will not support someone with such a low value of life - if I did, I would be in danger of the judgment described above in Proverbs 24 - I would encourage you to ask yourself, are you in danger of falling under this judgment??
At October 9, 2008 5:39 PM , BruceS said...

Cherie:
Jesus cares about the poor...and so do Republicans. Direct giving is more effective than government funding any day. In fact, Republicans generallly give significant more money to organizations that help the poor than do Democrats or Liberals. I would rather give my money directly to an organization such as the Salvation Army than to the government. Check out the charitable giving of Obama, McCain, Palin and Biden to see who really cares more for the poor.
At October 9, 2008 5:42 PM , statistician said...

McCain's charitable giving (via Cindy) blows the other three away.

That's right. Palin is not so charitable either.

As Casey Stengel used to say, "You could look it up."
At October 9, 2008 6:10 PM , Jay said...

Steve, your hyperbolic, idolatrous rant is the reason I hope and pray that Republicans lose EVERY state come November.

Perhaps if we religious zealots have no Davidic saviour in the white house, or no Esther waiting to save us from state supposed destruction, then maybe we will be so totally and completely humiliated that we will repent of our idolatry and return to OUR SAVIOR, Christ.

Wasn't it GW who was the fiscal conservative (I'm trying not to laugh at that one). Wasn't he suppose to boost a faltering economy? Stop gay-marriage? Contain abortion? Heal the sick? Raise the dead? Walk on water and usher in the millenial age?

Poor president Bush. He didn't stand a chance when conservatives rested the "government on his shoulders."

I wonder how the apostles and the early church advanced the gospel and conquered the decadent Roman culture without their "man in Rome"? How are our Chinese brethren faring without the gospel on state welfare?

It probably isn't a bad idea if the next four years means it will take some backbone to preach the gospel. Maybe if the laws of men are turned against us, it separate the wheat from the tares, the men from the boys, the hirelings from the sheperds.

Sorry Steve, I neither share your chicken little hysteria, nor your your vulgar adullation for the GOP.
At October 9, 2008 6:19 PM , sammy.unloadingthestuff said...

Well, as a Canadian, I watch this from across the fence (border at the 49th) and I don't wonder any longer why I have such a distaste for American Evangelicalism. I am a Christian, and the son of a missionary, and I was a pastor myself. But I don't wrap myself in my nation's flag! In fact I no longer vote. I don't believe in voting for any candidate. But one person who commented got it right. I pray for those in authority and I submit to the laws of the land. The only changes that will last will come from the hand of God that is moved by prayer, and not my our votes or our changing the laws and trying to turn our nations into theocracies. If that were ever to happen most of us would be crying out for a secular state!

I read your postings over the last few months and I wonder what planet you are on. I wish there were just as much pray as there is smearing of candidates. I wish people would get off their duffs and serve as volunteers in their communities. I wish Christians would love and express compassion. I wish Christians would walk out the way of peace and demonstrate to our governments that there is no such thing as redemptive violence, and that Christian participation in war in non-Scriptural. My how far we have fallen from the standards of the Kingdom of God.
At October 9, 2008 6:19 PM , Anonymous said...

By the way Steve, as Christians we can agree that Obama is a ultra-liberal, far left senator with some scary ideas. But some of your insinuations and smears are beneath you as a Christian.

Report the facts and trust in the sovereign purposes of God.

He is a jealous God.

If the GOP loses it doesn't mean Christ has fallen off the throne, and we dishonor the Lord with this shameful hysteria.
At October 9, 2008 6:21 PM , Anonymous said...

Try spelling it, "adulation", Einstein.
At October 9, 2008 6:28 PM , you guess said...

You what I really, really like? Preachy Canadians. Love'em. They remind me why I love to vacation north of the border and live south of the border.

Just love'em.

I would spend time responding point-by-point to the poor gent's post, but he seems obtuse, so why bother.
At October 9, 2008 6:34 PM , you guess said...

Ah, it seems the poor gent is an Emergent Church Canadian. Hence the liberal blah, blah, blah. A double dose of it.

Funny how Canadians have an anemic national defense, but they love their pugilistic national past time, hockey. Shadow warriors, I guess.

Give us a call when a nation attacks you. We'll come rescue you. You know we will.
At October 9, 2008 6:39 PM , pastor ed snow said...

To the misguided Canadian brother:

please retract the arrogant-sounding remarks I quote you on here ...

"I wish there were just as much pray as there is smearing of candidates. I wish people would get off their duffs and serve as volunteers in their communities. I wish Christians would love and express compassion. I wish Christians would walk out the way of peace and demonstrate to our governments that there is no such thing as redemptive violence, and that Christian participation in war in non-Scriptural."

Besides being simplistic for its board generalizing, what makes you sound so arrogant as to suggest Christians are not praying, serving, love, and showing compassion.

Perhaps you aren't. The Lord will forgive you. Just please don't, in your obvious frustration, making sweeping statements that can not be defended.
At October 9, 2008 6:40 PM , nathan said...

hehe the canadian got owned
At October 9, 2008 6:42 PM , pastor ed snow said...

clairification:

I meant to type, broad generalizing.
At October 9, 2008 6:44 PM , nathan said...

the canadian dude says

"In fact I no longer vote."

i salute you for that. the uninformed should stay out the ballot box.

bravo, dudley do-rite
At October 9, 2008 6:46 PM , republican man said...

O'Reilly just read the post by the Canadian man. He summed up his response in one word:

PINHEAD
At October 9, 2008 6:48 PM , Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree more with Steve Strang. I have never had a heavier burden to pray than I have right now for this nation. The enemy has launched an all out attack against the United States of America! Many in the body of Christ and across the nation have been deceived by an angel of light. The Lord spoke clearly to me, that this is what the enemy is trying to steal from us as a nation:

-The sanctity of marriage through endorsement of gay unions

-The innocence of our children through the propagation of pornography all in the name of "Free Speech"

-The prosperity and well-being of our nation by replacing free market enterprise with a socialistic government

-The sanctity of life through the widespread advocacy of abortions at all stages of pregnancy

-The safety and security of our nation by the reduction of our military strength and limitaion of terrorist monitoring activities

-The freedom of the gospel to be freely preached by placing restrictions on what can and cannot be preached from the pulpit

-The power of the gospel by the endorsement of false teachings that say "all roads lead to God" and all religions are equal

My brothers and sisters: If these things are allowed to happen, the United States as we know it today, will be unrecognizable ten years from now. We will look much like the Soviet Union of the Cold War era. We must awake and put on the whole armor of God! This is a spiritual battle!

Prayer: "God, open the eyes of Your people. We urgently cry to You for divine intervention of behalf of truth and righteousness in our nation."
At October 9, 2008 6:51 PM , Lawsy40 said...

You never cease to amaze me Mr. Stang. What do you mean "Life as WE know it ?'" You mean Life as YOU know it ! Your arms are too short to box with God my friend ! God will be true to HIS WORD and HIS PLAN. The good thing is... YOU don t have to like it ! The Heart is decietfully wicked Mr. Strang... Yours is showing and it has nothing to do with taxes ! Bless You ! GOOOO OBAMA Go !!! If the devil is this mad ... there must be VICTORY UP AHEAD !
At October 9, 2008 6:54 PM , Anonymous said...

Jay, you are right on the money.

It is sad that Strang has to stoop that low.
At October 9, 2008 6:55 PM , Lawsy40 said...

Oh ! Sorry for mispelling your name .... You know who you are ! We are beginning to see the Real You !
At October 9, 2008 6:57 PM , Anonymous said...

Lawys40,

Have a enough class to apologize to Strang.

Your post is out of line.
At October 9, 2008 7:00 PM , statistician said...

Snippy Canadians.

Angry blacks.

A really cool Cuban immigrant.

If we keep going, we'll have all the demographic groups represented by midnight.
At October 9, 2008 7:01 PM , jay said...

You know the zealots are in full RNC armor, under the guise of religious piety when the most significant contribution to the discussion is a Sharpton-like quip.

If Steve's article weren't so embarrassing for a Bible believing Christian, it might actually be funny.

It's like he's become the far-right counterpart to the moonbats at moveon.org.
At October 9, 2008 7:06 PM , Lawsy40 said...

.... And what do you mean
" MUST BE STOPPED "...CAREFUL MR. STRANG... THE WORD OF GOD SPEAKS OF THE FOOL WHO WAS WARNED THAT THIS NIGHT HIS SOUL MIGHT BE REQUIRED... SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU NEED TO STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE ELECTION AND TAKE SOME TIME TO GET YOUR HEART RIGHT BEFORE GOD !
At October 9, 2008 7:07 PM , kelly said...

Rick Moore and John Robinson are the most significant contribution to the discussion IMHO.
At October 9, 2008 7:08 PM , gwen said...

ummmmm ... "must be stopped" ... like McCain 51, Obama 49 ... that kind of stopped you overheated bloviator
At October 9, 2008 7:12 PM , hehehe said...

Lawsy40's ALL CAPS routine ... fits well with his ranting... all class, that one
At October 9, 2008 7:14 PM , miss manners said...

Hey Jay, you own a magazine? No, I didn't think so. The extent of your influence begins and ends here, right? Then act like a gracious guest.
At October 9, 2008 7:17 PM , Anonymous said...

Faith comes by hearing. I think undiscerning Christians have heard so much RNC garbage that it has become the gospel truth. It doesn’t help that people like Steve are coming out of the closet.
At October 9, 2008 7:18 PM , James said...

I believe Charisma magazine has helped many people around the world with their walk with Christ. All do respect, I'm very disappointed with your article about Senator Obama. Where is your love? I disagree with you and think you need to research more deeply before making negative untrue comments. Have you researched Sen. McCain and all of his beliefs? He may have experience, but how about his faith in Jesus Christ? How about the Brewery (beer) company that his wife is heir to? Have you researched that? Or is it because he's a republican that you've allowed the party to harden your heart? I pray it's not because he's Afro-American, or it's out of fear. As a Christian you shouldn't be making comments about stopping somebody especially someone who has confessed to the whole world that he's a believer. You're suppose to pray for him. No matter who wins, God is in control. Please respond.
At October 9, 2008 7:26 PM , kelly said...

James, your answers are to be found in the posts by Rick Moore and John Robinson. If they don't answer your questions, nothing will. You're just intransigent then.
At October 9, 2008 7:28 PM , Anonymous said...

Miss manners, since Steve Strang did not appoint you moderator, I believe it is outside YOUR sphere of influence to dictate what constitutes grace on this forum. He is an adult and grown enough to defend this hysterical, partisan tirade, without your intervention or mine.
At October 9, 2008 7:30 PM , miss manners said...

Your lack of intervention is duly appreciated, save the last little salvo.
At October 9, 2008 7:39 PM , Anonymous said...

I consider myself a conservative, but I have to admit the article was completely out of line. When you have true faith, you are rested in the will of God, but fear causes hysteria.

I respect the writer, but I don’t condone the spirit behind the article.
At October 9, 2008 7:46 PM , barrington said...

My, my the poor thinking that people have exhibited on here. Witness James as he chides Strang:

"As a Christian you shouldn't be making comments about stopping somebody especially someone who has confessed to the whole world that he's a believer. You're suppose to pray for him."

Are you daft, James?

Let's say Louis Farrakhan was running (hey, George Wallace, Farrakhan's polar opposite was once on the ballot). Using the James Doctrine (we will forgive Governor Palin if she hasn't heard of that one, right?), I would a) not try to stop him, and b) pray for him.

Well, pray for him I might (the nature of my petition I will leave unspoken), but trust me, friend, I would expend great effort to stop him.

If the Law of Gravity is ever fails, we either have encountered a superseding law or the Law of Gravity would not be true.

So it is with the James Doctrine. Since we have shown very, very clearly that it could not be held to be true in all instances, we may safely disregard it as meaningful in this discussion, as well.

Go ahead, Steve, do all you can to stop Obama. And if he gets elected I know you will pray for him ... perhaps like you have never prayed for a president before.
At October 9, 2008 7:50 PM , nathan said...

mr strang i c how they r trying to play u

HYSTERIA

just like the talking point about McCain

ERRATIC

herd behavior will always be with us I guess.but there is no guarantee it does anything.
At October 9, 2008 7:54 PM , barrington said...

I agree with young Nathan (Nathan I am assuming you are young by your verbiage).

Beyond that, it seems to me that the hysterical ones are the Obama supporters.

Each time Strang posts something that runs contrary to their ticket, the Obama supporters yelp like someone has just stepped on their toes, or, maybe more to the point, like someone is depriving them of oxygen.

Yes, there seems to be hysteria here. But, does not belong to Stephen Strang.
At October 9, 2008 7:56 PM , miss manners said...

Wow! Barrington you rock! I hope I never get on the wrong side of you!
At October 9, 2008 7:57 PM , nathan said...

i know MM .. i wish i could say it like that
At October 9, 2008 8:01 PM , Anonymous said...

I applaud you Steven for publishing the truth, the bible says just as they persecuted Jesus, they will persecute you...The apostles of old suffered many persecution as well for being bold to declare the truth of the Gospel...don't be discouraged, keep doing what you are doing...there are more of us with you than those against you...I agree whole heartedly with what Kelly said..."Rick Moore and John Robinson are the most significant contribution to the discussion" I'm a black woman who is also a God fearing christian conservative voting for McCain/Palin. Those of us who are against Obama the the far left liberal is not against him because he is black...but its all about what he stands for...like one of the other readers mentioned there are many black people running for office that are people of good character and integrity...Obama isn't one of them...Plus black people are forgetting that Obama is also half white so I don't know why our black brothers and sisters gets so worked up calling everyone a racist who does not support Obama...the truth is, half the church is still blinded by the lies of the enemy...and if they truly serve and have a relationship with Jesus, they would realize that Jesus loves everyone, regardless of color and we should JUDGE A MAN BY HIS CHARACTER AND NOT BY THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN... not everyone who is against Obama is racist...Obama is the devils advocate, don't get upset because some of us have the common sense and intelligence and discernment to know the difference. One more thing OBAMA IS A MUSLIM...Evangelist Bree Keyton went to Kenya earlier this year and met with many of Obama's relatives who confirmed that he is a muslim....and he did say in his book, if chaos or war should break out between the US and the Islamic nations, he would side with the muslims. Read it for yourself,"Dreams from my father" he said it in his own words. He is a closet muslim, far left liberal, anti God, anti Israel, pro-homosexual, pro-women's right, pro-abortion even in the last trimester, pro-islamic, pro-socialistic communist values and cares for no one else but himself...remember I too am black and I see through his fausad. All we can do right now as children of God is pray. Only the Lord can fix this mess and bring unity to a divided church... the liberals attack spirit filled, child of God Sarah Palin and no one jump to her aid, the whole world sit aside and laugh at all the lies and the sadistic, sinister jokes sone about her yet no one says anything. Yet everytime someone dares to share their opionion about the so called chosen one... Obama and all of a sudden you are labeled a racist... so what about those who don't like Biden either who is white, what does that make them...racist towards a white man too......The problem is many of the Pastors in the black churches are not teaching the truth of the bible, neither are they addressing the things God detest...It's unfortunate but many of my church brothers and sisters are misguided and until they put SELF aside and give a listening ear to the word of God with a heart ready and willing to receive, they will continue to walk in blindness. Israel is the apple of Gods eye, Obama is anti-Israel..remember Jeremiah Wright...God is against homosexuality and abortion yet Obama supports them....there are many blacks not voting for Obama because of his character...it has nothing to do with his skin color...check out the national black republican association website... conservative, factual and no racial rhetoric and one sided view...very interesting articles...http://www.nbra.info/

Lets all stay in prayer and God will show up and show out..Bottom line is, He is in control...

Love you all
God bless
At October 9, 2008 8:20 PM , Anonymous said...

The anonymous who wrote under the disguise of a black woman, is completely out of torch. Deception can enter any one, black or white. What many discerning Christians have a problem with is people who are spouting unconfirmed nonsense in the name of the Lord. Claiming Obama is a Muslim is absurd! I guess that gives them a legal reason to hate him. We have seen many converted Muslims who are used of the Lord.

Please don’t be deceived by the religious spirit. Saying you are black does not give you more credibility.

Peace
At October 9, 2008 8:22 PM , Anonymous said...

Concerning John McCain:

How many times has he been married?

Where does John McCain attend church?

Is he a member of said church?

Is he saved, santified, blood washed, bound for the promised land, and not ashamed of the Gospel? Or is he just a casual Christian?

Did he regulary attend services at said church before he began his presidential candidacy?

Who is the pastor of John McCain's church?

Can we subject the pastor of John McCain's church to the same scrutiny as Rev Jeremiah Wright?

Will the media be permitted to quote his sermons out of context and question his patriatism?

Will the media force John McCain to denounce his pastor and his church to assure America that he is not some right-wing religious fanatic?

Why did he not acknowledge the endorsements of Rod Parsely and John Hagee?

Anybody remember the "Keating Five"?

Ever wonder why those God-fearing Republicans couldn't right all of society's wrongs when they had a six year lock on Capital Hill?

Does John McCain attend pro-life rallies? Has he publicly called for the repeal of Roe v Wade?

Has John McCain lead an effort to introduce a constitutional amendment defining marriage as "one man and one woman"?

Why does this morally straight, God fearing maverick never seem to discuss his faith until election time?

Why don't you Obama haters blog about how to fix the economic problems caused by an overly deregulated banking industry? The dow closed at 85 and change, a five year low.

Why did that other god fearing Republican, George Bush, spend money like a druken sailor, further ballooning the national debt?

I could go on but I think you get the drift. No I don't agree with some of Barak's moral positions, but there is more at stake the gays, gambling, and abortion.

It's hard for John McCain to run away from the policies and party that he supported for 26 years. That's why this Christian is not ashamed to VOTE FOR BARCK OBAMA ON NOVEMBER 4!!!!!
At October 9, 2008 8:22 PM , Anonymous said...

Out of "torch" ... lolol
At October 9, 2008 8:24 PM , Anonymous said...

North Phoenix Baptist Church

Dan Yeary

You won't catch him pining away for God to damn America.
At October 9, 2008 8:26 PM , Anonymous said...

Jeremiah Wright was not quoted out of context.

I put myself through the torture of watching an entire sermon by him (not something I am eager to repeat).

Say, BTW, you upset about Wright's affair that came to light?

Oh, of course not.

Carry on.
At October 9, 2008 8:28 PM , Anonymous said...

I remember John McCain coming clean on the Keating Five.

I remember that he was admonished --- not found guilty --- by his Senate colleagues.

I recall Bob Bennett, famed for his defense of Bill Clinton, saying John did nothing wrong in the Keating Five incident.

I recall a lot, don't I.
At October 9, 2008 8:28 PM , Anonymous said...

How inconvenient for you lololol
At October 9, 2008 8:31 PM , Anonymous said...

Wow, what a citizen you are!

Roe v. Wade can not be repealed. It is not a law that congress voted on (you know, that important thing about representative government).

Roe v. Wade has to be overturned by the Supreme Court.

And McCain has promised to nominate justices like Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.

With ancient Justice Stevens soon to retire, you can see why it is important to vote for John McCain.

You should be paying me for this education, you know :-)
At October 9, 2008 8:33 PM , Anonymous said...

You said:

"Why does this morally straight, God fearing maverick never seem to discuss his faith until election time?"

You follow his career all the time?

Not likely.

You certainly don't follow the Supreme Court very closely.
At October 9, 2008 8:35 PM , Anonymous said...

You said:

"Why don't you Obama haters blog about how to fix the economic problems caused by an overly deregulated banking industry?"

You, of course, are aware that McCain co-sponsored Chuck Hagel's bill in 2005 that called for stricter regulation of Fannie and Freddie.

Oh, I guess not.

You don't know very much about congress, either, I guess.
At October 9, 2008 8:36 PM , Anonymous said...

There ... your lesson for today is over.

What is that the young people call it?

"Owned" yeah, "Owned."
At October 9, 2008 8:40 PM , Anonymous said...

14-minutes to respond (8:22 to 8:36).

I like to call it, Lightning Teaching.

Next time you have to pay though.
At October 9, 2008 8:46 PM , Anonymous said...

BTW, how is it you infer that McCain does not talk much about his faith, but you had to ask where he goes to church?

Sheesh.
At October 9, 2008 8:49 PM , Anonymous said...

Comments like “Stop Him“ made in this article, would really encourage a religious jihad. Please read below:

“The stakes were raised dramatically in the US Presidential election Thursday as it was confirmed the Secret Service was investigating a cry of ‘Kill Obama’ at a rally addressed by his Republican rival John McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin. At the same time, a man wearing an Obama T-shirt was shot three times in a London street. The violence comes amid major gains by the Democratic candidate, Mr Obama, in the polls. And it follows the arrests of three men, who allegedly had said they wanted to kill the candidate when he made his acceptance speech at Denver, Colorado in August.”

Whether you agree or disagree with Obama’s policies, you have to agree that there is a spirit been confronted, and these are the manifestations.

Let us continue to pray. Our hope is in God.

Peace
At October 9, 2008 8:51 PM , Anonymous said...

Finally, for all you sensitive types out there who are coiling yourselves up, preparing to launch into a diatribe about how my caustic retorts are not very Christian.

Well, for your information, Imight grant you ... say ... half a point on that one. I am a work in progress.

However, rewind just a little bit, to the hostile, aggressive approach of my 'student'.

Selah.
At October 9, 2008 8:53 PM , Anonymous said...

What a hand-wringer Anonymous at 8:49 is.

Do you think that is what Strang was calling for? Do you think that is how HIS readers would or will respond?

Wise up.
At October 9, 2008 8:57 PM , earl said...

STOP HIM

Like McCain 51, Obama 49

silly man
At October 9, 2008 9:08 PM , Pat said...

When all is said and done, whether you agree or don't agree with what Steven Strang has said, all of us need to understand that this election is a spiritual warfare battle between God and satan for this country.
I think most of the posters on here has misunderstood the title of his article.
We are the pawns that are being used. We have the right to vote for whom we personally consider to be the right person for the job. But, be very careful.
We are in the days of the Laodicea Church age.
Like Soloman, we all need an extra dose of wisdom, which we can only get through the Holy Spirit.
Yes, we do need to continue to pray for our country, for the nation, for other countries, for our leaders, and for those in authority. That is scriptural, it is in the Bible.
One point that I do want to make is that there are many people of different ethnic backgrounds using the race card. This is disgusting!

I would never encourage anyone to vote for a person, regardless of race or gender, to vote for anyone who has the viewpoints that Obama has. He does not have leadership abilities, nor does he have the proper credentials to run this country.
Even though there are things that I did not approve of Pres. Bush doing, he was and still is our leader and he deserves respect.

There are some things that I do not approve of about McCain, but I do believe that the good will outweigh the not so good.
Since we only have these 2 candidates to choose from, I will choose the lesser of 2 evils.
I will vote what the Bible says about some major issues.

I do not approve of the $700 billion bailout because too many people put their trust in Wall Street and greed took over.

This will hurt us for the next 10 years; that will be our children and grandchildren who will suffer the most.

For those of you who profess to be Christians and those who are not, I will say this.
Thank God that we do have the right to voice our opinions, but we all do need to exercise common sense, good wisdom, and good judgment.
This should be a forum for discussion, not a forum for bashing someone for writing their heartfelt opinion about a situation. If you want to disagree about an issue, you should be able to do so without being disagreeable. Some of these post responses are very disagreeable.
The Bible says to be rightously angry, but do not sin.

Last, but not least, be sure of the true facts, not rumors, when you respond to a post, and please be courteous; everyone deserves that.
Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion.
At October 9, 2008 9:10 PM , barrington said...

One wonders why all these Obama supporters are wailing about Strang writings, but at the same time boasting how the Lord is going to put Obama in office?

Why the wailing? Does your 'foreknowledge' about the election's outcome not foster confidence within you?

(BTW, nice job anonymous scholar.)
At October 9, 2008 9:36 PM , Jaunita said...

What a fear-mongering commentary, and shame on you for aligning yourself with a campaign who's rallies recently have been more like riots- with people calling out 'KILL HIM', and/or 'TERRORIST!'

That is what you SHOULD be commenting on Mr. Strang.

I've been a conservative Christian for almost 30 years, and have voted as such: But this time the antichrist spirit which has been operating within the McCain/Palin campaign is not something i can support or cast a vote for.

And there are many Christians who love Jesus, and feel the same way. I know because i hear from them daily.

What happened to your faith Mr Strang...do you no longer believe in the sovereignty of God?

It appears by the title of your fear based commentary, you don't...and i say that with sadness.

What a sad day for the Church of Jesus Christ when those Christians with 'voices' have sunk to fear mongering and smearing others for political reasons...

God help us all
At October 9, 2008 9:36 PM , jay said...

Ah...it should be duly noted that it was the great conservative icon Ronald Reagan (and I love Reagan by the way), who gave us...wait for it...justice Sandra Day O'Connor. As we all know (well evidently some do not) that she was the swing vote on "women's reproductive issues."

It should also be noted that George Bush, who promised to appoint conservative judges, also attempted to give us Harriet Miers.

By the way, for those screaming "the socialists are coming!" Reagan ( a true conservative) would NEVER sign this behemoth bailout package that John McCain "suspended" his campaign to support.

Fact is we KNOW Obama has a socialist agenda. McCain spinelessly went along with the Washington herd. So Strang will forgive me if his words seems very, very hollow.

It should also be noted that John McCain is on record as saying that he does not desire to have Rowe overturned "at this time". Something about not wanting to subject women to unsafe procedures. Hmm...so let me get this straight. Obama supports abortion but claims he will work to reduce the need for it. McCain claims to be against it, but doesn't want to see Rowe overturned "at this time."

Okie dokie then.

And while we are digging up past history here, it should also be noted that this is the same John McCain who called the late Rev Falwel and conservatives like him "agents of intolerance." Of course since he needs the agents of intolerance to secure the White House, he has mellowed some.

And of course the Palin pick sealed the deal. He has those agents of intolerance firmly on board.

So while Obama claims to be a Christian but denies many of the most precious principles of Scripture; McCain also claims to be a Christian he just finds conservatives divisive and distasteful.

Alllllrightie.

I'm begining to see Strang's point about life as we know it.
At October 9, 2008 9:41 PM , Anonymous said...

Barrington:

I don’t think anyone is claiming that God will put Obama in office. If anything, many are humbled that he has made it this far, with the odds against him.
At October 9, 2008 9:42 PM , Anonymous said...

As a Canadian, I apologize for the earlier post by another Canadian. There are many of us that do love and pray for our brothers and sisters across the 49th. We are facing an election right now ourselves and it is far from certain which way that it will go. We are praying that God's Will will be done.

By the tone of many of the posts on here, it seems that there is indeed a hijacking of these comments by other than God fearing Christians. Let me just encourage you not to be swayed by some of these negative posts, some of which are trying to distort the truth. Remember that our true enemy is the father of all lies and will not come in his true colors.
At October 9, 2008 9:42 PM , jay said...

And by the way, any Obama supporter claiming foreknowledge of the election ranks right up there with those conservatives throwing Old testament mantles (Deborah, Esther etc) on Sarah Palin.

It is the same cultic mindset.
At October 9, 2008 10:09 PM , Anonymous said...

Jay:

You are right on! We have a “super hero” mentality in our culture today, and we are waiting for someone to come and save the day. I think extremists are found in both parties. That kind of mentality can lead to a “cultic mindset”. Thanks for your insightful comments.
At October 10, 2008 12:05 AM , Anonymous said...

I am a Kenyan writing from Nairobi Kenya. I like your debates as most of you post very strong debating issues though a few are just out there to insult their political rivals. One of the things thing I thank Steve for is the fact that he projects his points in a way that ellicits very quick and passionate responses.
My concern for Americans, especially believers is the post election US. I hope some voice of reason emerges to remind both sides of the divide that we soon shall have either Obama or McCain at the White House and certainly not both of them! Shall we maintain the brotherhood that has been there in the past? All people should be encouraged to vote and then be prepared for the any outcome because any sober analyst can attest, at least by the opinion polls that this is a tight race...and either could win. My suggestion to any serious leader in the American Church is that we do not be so overtaken by the emotions of the moment that we forget that we still shall be expected to offer credible leadership whether our choice candidate wins or not. As someone suggested, life must continue irrespective of whether McCain or Obama marches to White House. None of these guys anyway, is so 'Christian' or such a model as to cause 'us' so much tension or brew so much hatred for one another. In post election America, let all on both sides be ready to be there for each other as it wont matter who voted who. Let moderation prevail in our debates. I dont mean it could happen in America as you all speak English, but I can remember very well that those intensities of opinions and issues-si what divided Kenya before our last year's elections and the Church had a heavy price to pay thereafter. I am certain, that in as much as Americans can't go that far, some leaders, especially Christians-and more so pastors -will have a very difficult time after November-with some being rendered irrelevant.
My prayers are with you, dear Americans!
Before I forget....two days ago, Dr Jerome Corsi, author of 'Obama Nation' was thrown out of Kenya by Kenyan Immigration for jetting in on a visitor's visa and then organizing a major business/political launch of his book in a Kenyan Hotel...Was that fair of him, really? You can 'appreciate' that Kenya would naturally be inclined to an Obama presidency for obvious reasons. However, though the deportation of Dr Corsi may seem like intolerance, it is also fair to be honest. I don't think there could have been any issue with him applying for a business visa and then launch his book. I also dont think, anyway, that there are any serious numbers of American voters in Kenya, and if it was for monetary reasons, few people would buy that book here anyway to offer him any realistic returns. That is my view.
At October 10, 2008 12:20 AM , SeekChange said...

Steve, Steve,

That this newsletter is conservative I do get. That you wholeheartedly support McCain for that reason, I do get too. But as president of a number of magazines that want to reflect journalistic perspective and values, I must say that your lack of any perspective is shocking to me. You closed your article with the words ‘The only reason Obama is competitive is because people do not really know who and what he stands for.’ And that is called bending truth, to be mild.

The crisis that the world is currently feeling is the direct result of the actions of the Republican Party headed up by the cartoon character George W., who is not being taken serious by the world, and not by the Americans. But have you forgotten who promoted and supported him? He was brought in as the messiah of the American people, and if you leave it to the people, see where the people will get you. The surprise is that Obama, because of the previous fact, is not much further ahead.

Most of you foolish conservatives don’t have a clue where you are, and how you got there. The only thing you want is to keep what you have, and avoiding necessary changes. Not by the democrats, but by any logical opinion. I don’t know if you are aware that ‘life as we know it in many ways will end’ has nothing to do with Obama, but with the changes that the world is going through for over two decades. America is headed to become off less importance every year by the actions of it’s people. The country is increasingly sliding in the worst position it has ever been in with economic and social unrest and downfall in it’s wake because of the political ignorance it has been in for years.

The biggest reason for this is that conservative America is not voting on a political program, but on three issues: gays, abortion and ‘so called’ freedom. That just covered maybe 4% of the problems at hand, and while ignoring the other 96% of important issues. You can’t take yourselves very serious in calling to stop Obama, because he is the least of your problems. Ignore the rest, and the country is heading for the deepest crisis in it’s history on all accounts. The bible is very clear on whom God sees to protect as weaker individuals. But the conservatives do not protect and defend people, but social historical structures, greed, wealth of the few and religious structures. ‘Give to the poor’ is high on God’s agenda, you seem to have forgotten that.

To use Christianity as a political argument is the worst of your problems, because as you might realise Jesus never came to set political standards or to support a political view. He bypassed that all. And if you read Paul Viera’s book, ‘Jesus has left the building’ you also can find out that Christianity is not on Gods agenda at all.

In your empty report you failed to mention one single argument of the Republican Party why you should vote for them. Voting against something is even worse than voting for the wrong thing.

I had hoped to get better arguments if some at all. Past behaviour is a great indicator of future behaviour and in knowing that, there is little hope for the United States. In ignoring the truth about the current economy situation and American political issues you are heading for disaster anyhow. I always rated you personally to be of higher goals, moral and perspective and your recent writings have been a disappointment. Life as you know it will end anyway, and sooner than you think. But that has nothing to do with Obama or the Democratic Party but with an ostrich mentality of people who don’t take responsibility for their current and past actions.

Olaf D. Milders
The Netherlands
At October 10, 2008 4:04 AM , Anonymous said...

In the book of Timothy, it says that God will put Kings up and take them down. All Christians need to pray for our nation, that the will of the Holy Spirit will go forth. In approximately 28 of the last 36 years we have had a Republican president, Roe vs Wade was passed with Republican president. I believe that most people who entertain the idea of voting in Sen Barak Obama are horrified at the hypocrisy and lack of Christian values demonstrated by the Republican ticket. I voted for George Bush because of my theocratic concious, and I'm left wondering if Republicans play the God card, in the election and then fail to live up to it. The Republicans who stand for family values, have done a complete 180 and advocates and endorse a mother of 5 children, whose husband lacks a steady job shirk what God says should be her first earthly responsibility and focus on a fight that is using her to make a point. As a working professional woman, I believe that woman can have successful careers, but a special needs baby and a confused teenager ready to have a baby says to me that the home needs a mother's attention. That is her priority and if the Democrats had this situation on their tickets, the Republicans and so called Christians would tar and feather her. I see Sen Barak Obama for what he is, an imperfect man who is bi-racial and has exposure to diversity of white and black issues, although America refuses to acknowledge his white heritage because it is not convenient. He has had 1 wife who is also a well accomplished professional, but has her priorities in order. The republicans stopped talking about values because the campaign lacks values, and it is a joke. For me this election has forced me to examine the party that I thought upheld the Word of God. It is a sham, and may God have mercy on all of us. Sen Obama is running a campaign on substance, Sen McCain is running a campaign on hate. Perhaps if we had a more sensitive Republican agenda, the millions of children, primarily african americans who are having abortions, could have avoided them if their parents didn't have to be absent, in most cases, as a result of working multiple jobs just to keep food on the table. Perhaps if there was more concern about creating an economy where working parents could make a decent wage and be home to spend time with their children, rather than leaving their children to raise themselves, people would not feel so hopeless about the republican agenda.
At October 10, 2008 4:17 AM , Anonymous said...

Dear anonymous:

It's time all Americans, including people of all race and color start taking responsibility for the choices they make instead of blaming it on the government. History has shown that a government that creates a culture of dependence on government programs always declines, and all people suffer for it. The Republicans at least had the courage to appoint Supreme Court judges that value life and the sanctity of marriage, which is a lot more than I can say for the Democrats. After killing 50 million babies, you would think we would have learned our lesson by now. The Republicans also had the courage to fully support faith-based initiatives. The McCain campaign is simply trying to expose the truth about Obama: That he supports Marxist ideologies that would eventually rob us all of our God-given freedoms. It has nothing to do with race. And by the way, it was the Democrats who voted against the regulations that would have avoided this economic catastrophe.
At October 10, 2008 4:50 AM , Vern said...

Lift up your voice like a trumpet in Zion! Set your face like a flint and declare the Word of the Lord! I am Black and I care about my country and my God. I did not need you to tell me the truth about Senator Obama, because the Holy Spirit dwells richly in the hearts of all who invite Him in. From my perspective the brothers and sisters in the Black community still harbor un-forgiveness for slavery and the racial injustices of the past. It is this door that blinds and binds. The bible says when we see a brother or sister overtaken in a fault, that we who are spiritual in the spirit of meekness restore such a one! We must pray for them and gently restore them. If they will not hear us, and harden their hearts, we have done all we can. The Book has all the instruction we need. I hope your efforts do not come too late! WHO IS ON THE LORD'S SIDE? We will soon see!
At October 10, 2008 4:50 AM , The Emrys said...

I posted this thought on the Sarah Palin Prophecy forum but it fits here:

What if God, who knows more than we do, including the future, knows that America is going to face something in the next few years that Barack Obama is uniquely equipped to handle?

Politics don't really come into it, much, then, do they? It's hypothetical, yes. But it takes the whole thing right out of the political and into the spiritual sphere. Our prayers should be for God's choice, not ours.

If we pray that way, He may just surprise us...
At October 10, 2008 6:07 AM , thead58@hotmail.com said...

ALL very interesting comments. I believe we should be very careful about reckless statements.
Though I agree that gay, abortion and poverty issues are at the core of what America values, it is difficult to identify which candidate has the right answers or has previously pursued valid solutions. I didn't even go to the video clips because I have seen and believed these before only to find that they are the product of "yellow" journalism.
I think we need to pray for our nation to let the Holy Spirit open our eyes. We need to vote for the team that represents God's values - ---abundant life and opportunity to step out of poverty
----hard work and sacrifice to maintain peace and safety
----forgiveness to our oppressors so that we can move on and not repeat the sins of those who disrespected us
----the truth that is unafraid to stand in the light of probing questions

If you believe Jesus died and shed his blood for your sins, let our nation represent that gloriously.
Let those who don't believe be able to see a difference in us. If we disagree at the polls, we are not polarized. We still love each other - the mark of following Christ.
I pray for the scales to fall from our eyes that we would choose our leaders in light of wisdom.
And if, after that, it doesn't go the way we believed to be right, believe that our Father is not surprised.
Our faith is that He will not leave us, nor forsake us...why should we let our lives be ripped apart and our Christian witness compromised by political rightness.
Will we die or give up the kingdom, because we lose this battle with flesh and blood. I think the enemy of our soul is looking for us to let down our guard on the "real" battlefield.
.... I think we should check our personal level of peace with God.
We should seek truth and justice - God says He honors that. But, let Americans vote their conscience and be responsible for that. Let America be the land of the free --where we're not forced to vote like a collective conscience.
At October 10, 2008 6:18 AM , Anonymous said...

Our first and foremost responsibility as a Christian is to walk in the prefect Will of God. Our leadership should be encouraging the body of Christ to be praying for God's Will in this election and all areas.
We do not know the plans of God, how He will execute those plans and who is involved.
May we all continue to seek the kingdom of God and all His righteousness.
At October 10, 2008 6:27 AM , Anonymous said...

Here's the plan.

Let's boycott Mr. Strang's magazines. This will reduce his income to below $250,000 and then he wont have to worry about his taxes.

I truly believe if Mr. Strang's income were in line with the average American's, his position would be different.

Also, isnt this the same Mr. Strang that supported Huckabee?

Does anyone remember him putting McCain down in Huckabee's defense?
At October 10, 2008 6:30 AM , Anonymous said...

I completely agree with Strang's post! Obama MUST be stopped or we could be plunged into the very depths of hell. With ignorance such as this, I have to wonder how many of you will stand in line and take the mark of the beast.

BE WARNED: You will all have to answer to God almighty on who you chose to lead this country. I suggest you choose wisely!
At October 10, 2008 6:32 AM , Anonymous said...

I think America is being judged at this present moment by God for our treatment of Israel. I pray, andpray hard that Obama does not get to the White House, but sad to say many in the church, in fact, the vast majority in the church are without discernment. They can't see through the lies with the eyes of theSpirit. Love has nothing to do with this. We are on the verge of absolutely darkness sweeping this country of ours while the church is asleep. May God have mercy on us if Obama gets elected even by people who call themselves believers.
At October 10, 2008 6:34 AM , Anonymous said...

Take a look at this YouTube.com video. Obama youth praising him as the Messiah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE
At October 10, 2008 6:37 AM , Anonymous said...

Wow. Do you really believe that people are not good Christians if they vote for a black candidate? Is that what you are saying here? Wow. You need to get out of the Christian magazine business, because you are not a true Christian and you should not be allowed to spread such a terrible message.
At October 10, 2008 6:56 AM , Anonymous said...

I am ashamed that as a christian leader you knowingly mislead people who look up to you with these half truths and blantant untruths.

If this is what leadership in the church has become, I am simply pained.

No wonder Jesus would leave the 'teachers of the law' and choose fishermen and men who have nothing to loose on the side of the truth.

You need to have a heartfelt conversation with God about all this. Not a partisan prayer my brother, a 'let your kingdom come' prayer.
At October 10, 2008 7:28 AM , Lawsy40 said...

As for my " Class " or the lack there of as you put it ... My comment had nothing to do with how
" You " interpretted my comment. One aspect of " Class " is posting with a Name or Nickname and not
" Anonymous " when posting a comment ! As for confidence in God putting Obama in Office, I know He has His Perfect and Permissive Will.... Who do you blame for the last eight years that have brought us to financial ruin ? It all serves a divine purpose and with that I am at peace.
When and if however, your mortgage and jobs are brought to naught and you realize your money, stocks, or 401k's can save you ... then you may want to inquire of yourself how much Faith you put in your ticket of choice.... don t think it can happen to you ? Think Again !
At October 10, 2008 7:54 AM , Anonymous said...

When someone claims to be a believer and broadcast it so everyone will know,but then shows that they are in direct contradiction to the "word of GOD", and when another believer see this and calls them on their faultering, that is not questioning their beliefs, judging them or even out of line, it is called "accountablity" and this is exactly what our churches, government,and entire nation needs more of. Personally I think canidates should have to run under no party, but simply on who they are, what they believe, and what they think they can do. Stop trying to not sell me your opponent, and try and sell me your self, the media should take care of pointing out your bad things, in which most mainstream media seem to over look those of the Senator of the darker hue as apposed to the Senator of the ligher hue.
At October 10, 2008 8:00 AM , David J. said...

I usually do not leave comments on blogs but at this time in feel compelled to,given the divisive tone of all these comments.I expect all this political back and forth banter on news websites but here at a "Spirit filled" blog.
Folks this is what is wrong with us.We are just as divided as the world.
I must turn to the Bible as all of our opinions are a lie see Romans 3:4. Now Jesus said in John 13:35
By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.In the body of Christ we must walk in love and not allow ourselves to be divided by political agendas.
According to the bible our allegiance,our focus,our treasure, our anything and everything,our walk,our talk,our thoughts has got to be about Jesus,see Acts 17:28-For in him we live, and move, and have our being.
We get into the flesh when we start trying to debate spiritual issues with carnal words.America is in trouble today because the church is not being the church.PERIOD!!!As christians we are supposed to impacting our world with the love of Jesus Christ and the power of God (see Acts 17:6 These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;) and to many other scriptures to name.
Instead we sit around engaging in empty powerless rhetic trying to imitate scared unbelievers in the worldly system.\
I rebuke all of you in the name of the Lord.We are christians First,then republicans or democrats or whatever name you want to call yourselves.Like Mr "T" use to say "I pity the fool" if you are putting your hope in some political system the is going to crumble and pass away.
You have a responsibility to stand with the bible not some political party.
As to The poor issue-Jesus said in Matt 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
I submit to you that it is the church/the body of Christ that is responsble to take care of the poor,NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!!So you cannot use that as an excuse as to why you vote (see Matt 25:46) Oh and by the way nowhere in that scriptue does it say give $$$MONEY$$$ to the poor,it says "food-clothing-drink-taking in strangers"
Economy-
Phil 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
If you are a tithe payer(don't even try to argue that point with me)God will take care of you.
Ps 37:25 yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
Ps 33:12 Blessed [is] the nation whose God [is] the LORD
I could go on and on.
I tell you Abortion and gay rights are part of the main issues and war is not.
God uses war-you can see it everywhere in the bible.
To black people everywhere do not allow the enemy of your soul to decieve you as he did white people for so long.
Listen to me racisim is a spirit
Jesus said in Matt 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation,
Nation there is translated as "ethnic", ethinic group against ethinic group.Do not vote for someone just because of the color of their skin.If you do your are allowing yourself to be decieved by a spirit of racisim.
I'm not racist, my best friends are of a different color.I would vote in a minute for Alan Keys or Colon Powell, or even Condelezza Rice,
It's not color!!!It's content.I'm not saying John McCain is all that great either,but you have to vote for who comes closest to the bible.
So that means you have to "Rightly divide the word of truth 2Ti 2:15
As christians our #1 job is to Make Jesus Famous!!!
2 Chron 7:14 says the problem is with the Christians.
Pray through and stop being so worldly.
I challenge you to turn off CNN,FOX,MSNBC, all of them and get on your knees and pray for God's will be done. Ask Him what is His will for this election and be led by the Spirit not your flesh or a party or color.
It really is all about Jesus!!!
At October 10, 2008 8:11 AM , Anonymous said...

I almost fell off of my seat. Where have you been?
The Dow is decreasing every single day. The market is suffering, businesses are going out of business, and credit is hard to get. "Life As We Know It" is already ending. People are watching their savingS disappear like snowflakes and WHO IS OUR PRESIDENT? Republican George Bush. And he has been in charge for eight extremely long, painful years.
Please stop the madness! You are beginning to look unstable.

By the way--where has McCain worshipped during the last 26 years? Do you know?
At October 10, 2008 8:21 AM , diamondchelle said...

God is in control of all things, there is no one in Position that he did not allow to be. God has a plan for good or evil no man knows, only his purpose can be fulfilled in the Earth. God is still God and he rule and riegn. The Earh is the Lords, the WORLD the fullness there of and all that dwell therin. God gave every man free will, Thats why I love him so. How each individual vote is there busineess, God has the final say. The devil is really loving the confussion and division that is going on between Gods people. Shame shame on the Body of Christ. What happened to love thy neighbor as we love thy self. "Vengeance is mines saith the lord, I will repay". God will take care of what needs to be taken care of .Whom ever the Lord has already chose to be president will be and no one can change that. If Oboma became our leader would those christians who wanted Mccain, lift him up in prayer as a leader, like the word say or would they still be against him, things that make you say Hmm.
At October 10, 2008 8:24 AM , Tommy said...

Wow!! didn't this supposed to happen when Bill Clinton(the Devil incarnate) was elected. I know for for sure my life as I knew it has changed the past eight years under Bush(Compassionate Christian). Our lives did change under both of them but in different ways , you be the judge of how you were affected. Nevertheless must elect a King, but thakfully we have the KING of KINGS to rely on in the end.
At October 10, 2008 8:28 AM , Anonymous said...

I for one can not beleive that some of you so called christians are saying that we should not be making gay rights and abortion our number one concern. This is crazy because it SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN do you guys not remember the story of Sodom & Gomorrah!!! God hated the sinful acts of the gays back then and had to destroy them. We need to wake up we are in the last days!! You that say the liberals are nothing to worry about. Are you really even christian or will you be left behind when our Lord come to take us out of this sinful nation we are becoming where money and making it is more important that our morals. Did you see those in the bible times worrying about how they were going to make it no they were only worried about spreading the message of Christ and HATING sinful acts. I am not saying to hate those that sin but hate the Sin itself and love the person. PLEASE WAKE UP BEFORE IT's TO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At October 10, 2008 8:31 AM , Anonymous said...

Steve Strang is a closet racist!!
At October 10, 2008 8:41 AM , Debra said...

This is the first time I have ever left a comment on a blog. I have been shocked by the very critical and divisive tone of the comments.

Perhaps some of the links that were posted lead to questionable sources. but there are a lot of good sources that have uncovered things about Obama, that quite frankly scare me.

Obama is incredibly liberal and a socialist. Just listen to him and look at his record.

To me the most disturbing issue is his stance on abortion. I realize there are many other things on which a candidate can be judged. But to me someone who does not value the life of a child, even if it is still in the womb, is not someone I can vote for.

Abrtion is a very important issue because the consequences of abortion spill over into every area of our lives as a nation. The scriptures are very clear that the shedding of innocent blood brings a curse on the land. (Num. 35:33; Ps. 106:23, 37-40; just a few of many ref.).

Obama has stated that if elected "the first thing he will do is pass the Freedom of Choice Act", which will codify Roe v. Wade into law and make all curent restrictions on abortion null and void.

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/22/obama_statement_on_35th_annive.php

http://www.faithandaction.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.display&feature_id=572
At October 10, 2008 10:11 AM , Anonymous said...

I was going to say that the person at 8:31 was a closet nincompoop, but actually, that person's 'nincompoopiness' is right there in black-and-white for everyone to see.

You see, if Mr. Strang is a closet racist, he is a very poor one, seeing how he ardently supported Pastor Keith Butler for U. S. Senate.

Pray and fast, friend, because your kind of nincompoopiness comes out only by prayer and fasting.

At least that is what I am told, never having encountered such a severe case of nincompoopiness personally.
At October 10, 2008 10:21 AM , Anonymous said...

hehehe
At October 10, 2008 10:28 AM , Anonymous said...

from the BIRDS OF A FEATHER DEPT:

P. J. Gladnick writes this:

"Imagine the excitement of the mainstream media if they had discovered that some preacher up in Alaska had declared Sarah Palin to be like a deity? Well, the same basic thing happened when the Supreme Minister of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, declared Barack Obama to be a messiah as you can see in this video. I believe this messianic pronouncement by Farrakhan was made last February but the video was uploaded to YouTube just yesterday. Better save this video before it gets scrubbed by the Thought Police. I don't know which is creepier, the pronouncement of Obama as messiah by Farrakhan or that strange cultish smile on his face. Here is the transcript of Farrakhan's annunciation of the Messiah of the Chicago Machine:"

this can be found at:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/09/will-msm-report-louis-farrakhan-declaration-obama-messiah
At October 10, 2008 11:20 AM , Michigan Evangelical said...

Strang,

This time you've really whipped yourself up into a frenzy and you're seriously coming unglued here. HERE'S A NEWSFLASH for you: Obama is a Christian! You're getting frantic trying to destroy a fellow follower of Christ. And if you would presume to judge this man and say he IS NOT A CHRISTIAN and no one who votes for him can be called a Christian -- whoa! You've just made yourself God, the Judge. You know, the one you will be facing one day (as will I). Only God knows who belongs to him. I'd recommend a little more humility and fear of the Lord on your part.
At October 10, 2008 11:22 AM , Anonymous said...

Christian, huh?
At October 10, 2008 11:23 AM , Anonymous said...

Some say he is.

Some say he is not.
At October 10, 2008 11:24 AM , Anonymous said...

Maybe we should not argue about, but let his words speak for themselves ............
At October 10, 2008 11:24 AM , Anonymous said...

Here is the FULL transcript of his interview with Chicago Sun-Times reporter Cathleen Falsani

http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html
At October 10, 2008 11:25 AM , Anonymous said...

Here is the article Cathleen Falsani write about that interview

http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html
At October 10, 2008 11:26 AM , Anonymous said...

Still think he is a christian?
At October 10, 2008 11:27 AM , Anonymous said...

If so, isn't he the first REAL christian that Louis Farrakhan has every called The Messiah?
At October 10, 2008 11:28 AM , Anonymous said...

Of course, Mr. Farrakhan knows full well that Christianity was but one Messiah.

That Messiah is currently making all of His enemies His footstool.

Oh, BTW, I am not talking about Barack Hussein Obama.

I am talking about Yeshua of Nazareth.
At October 10, 2008 12:02 PM , daly.de.gagne@gmail.com said...

I am saddened by this whole discussion -- that we cannot have differences without thinking the worst intentions or motivations of others lie behind them. Having participated strongly early on I hope my words didn't help create the resulting climate here. If they did, my apologies to all, and may God forgive me.

Last night I was so upset that there was no pleasure in reading posts I agreed with even. I decided to not post again re Steve's article. But, I read another article today, this one by Jim Wallis (yes, he's a liberal evangelical) in Sojourners that I hope may say, in ways better than I did, some of the things that seem to me important for all of us.

In pasting it here, it is not to trump someone else's point, or borrow a name to make my original points. It is in effort to reach beyond yesterday to a place where we might reach something better than I among others contributed -- a place where we can find balance among both individual and social gospel values and needs.

Daly

A Church of Misfits
by Jim Wallis 10-10-2008

Church of the Resurrection takes its name seriously, and it should. You can’t name yourself “Resurrection” and then do anything less than work for renewal and make the choice for hope. Eighteen years ago the church started out as 25 people worshiping in a funeral home. Adam Hamilton, then 26, has since led this body to become the largest Methodist church in the country with more than 14,000 members.

This past week I spoke to a gathering of 1,700 church leaders who had gathered at Resurrection with a mission. A mission of renewal for the mainline church was clear, a renewal that brings together the personal and social gospel. While I preached to their church I was reminded of another pulpit. The pulpit of John Wesley. A pulpit that shook a nation.

I had the privilege of preaching for four worship services at Resurrection on Saturday and Sunday. The heart of my message was that the hope we have in Jesus Christ is not only the salvation of our souls but the redemption of the world. That when we embrace and live into both realities we experience awakening in our lives, churches, communities, nation, and the world. It is this kind of faith, faith for the big things, that moves mountains.

Watch or listen to the service here.

The spirit and mission of Wesley runs deep at Resurrection. After years of decline and decay in mainline churches across the country, the vision of revival and renewal is clear. Their pastor describes the church as one full of “misfits.” Misfits who hunger for more from their church, misfits who want to give more to the world, misfits who believe that the way things are is not how things are supposed to be. Hamilton says his church is often not liberal enough for the left or conservative enough for the right. He calls himself a “liberal evangelical.” History has taught us that it is when “misfits” call for the end of the status quo that the rumblings of revival begin.

It was misfits like John Wesley, William Wilberforce, and Charles Finney who lit the fires of revival that spanned two continents. They did not fit with the churches of their day because they were radically evangelical and unapologetically committed to a social gospel that challenged the evils of slavery.

I wrote the foreword to Adam’s newest book, Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White: Thoughts on Religion, Morality, and Politics. In it, he challenges Christians to go deeper. Not to be satisfied with shallow answers or easy faith but to dig down into a “radical center,” or what I call the “moral center.” If you are a pastor or church leader working for renewal or are ready to go deeper with your own faith, it’s well worth reading.

Often feeling like a misfit myself in a divided church, I felt right at home at the Church of the Resurrection. And I saw the future — a congregation full of both liberals and evangelicals, old and young, many formerly unchurched but now committed Christians, suburban but involved in the renewal of the St. Louis school system, mainline and Methodist but also evangelical and ecumenical, full of families and kids, 1,000 teenagers in the youth group, both traditional and contemporary worship, intellectual but warm-hearted, successful but humble, both Democrats and Republicans who believe that God is neither, and, most of all, fervently committed to a gospel that is both personal and social and refusing to divide the word of God or the body of Christ. At every service where I was blessed to preach, the pastor and congregation said they want to be a congregation for the next Great Awakening. I know I got renewed at the Church of the Resurrection.
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At October 10, 2008 12:18 PM , ellen said...

Yeah, I agree with you.

Your Joe McCarthy shot was pretty over the top.
At October 10, 2008 12:21 PM , daly.de.gagne@gmail.com said...

To Anonymous at 8:31 am:

Your comment about Steve being a closet racist saddens me. I disagree as much as anyone with Steve's analysis. I may find aspects of his analysis reflect a kind of systemic racism -- but that is far different from coming out and calling the man a closet racist. I do not believe he is, and even if he was, how does name calling reflect love, and how would it help to create positive change?

And on the other side of the issue, the remarks of Obama's pastor that are so offensive to many people -- so does that make Pastor Wright a racist, or a bad American, both commonly applied labels...

Or is he simply a person expressing some of the anger and frustration that, whether we like it or not, is part of the reality of being a person of color, or mixed race.

If we see him as the latter, there is the possibility of dialog and greater understanding all around. And even of love! But with the former, none of the above, certainly not love.

So whether it is Steve, or Pastor Wright, or you, or me -- let us not attack each other with labels spoken in anger, but instead to focus on the ideas. What was Steve trying to say? What was Pastor Wright trying to say? What were you trying to say? What are we failing to hear when on all sides of the discussion our anger and our labeling get the best of us.

Daly
At October 10, 2008 12:25 PM , rick moore said...

I sit near a wonderful Christian lady at work. Her actions, her words, where she puts her treasure, and even the music she hums so beautifully all give testimony to where her heart is.

She is a believer in the Resurrected Jesus. She is black. And she is voting for Obama.

I believe the 2008 presidential election is the only thing she and I have ever disagreed about. She is sweet and I would do anything in my power for her as a friend ... no, a sister.

But, when candidates are spoken about (even in the most neutral reference) the tension is almost palpable.

Before this campaign became so close and so hardly fought for, she and I always enjoyed laughter and fellowship. We still do, but infrequently. And sadly, I know why.

She thinks I have a hidden corner of racism in my heart. And not just me -- anyone who is voting for John McCain.

Yesterday, she heard another believer and I speaking in the little alcove where all the employees go for coffee. She heard us agree that the McCain/Palin camp is right to go after Obama on the character issues. She turned brusquely and left the area. And once again, my heart felt very heavy.

I am not rejoicing that Senator Obama's character is being examined because he is black. I affirm that strategy because everything about his life previous to running for president points to the fact that he is liberal ... and wrong. As Oral Roberts once said (in an entirely different context), rotten wrong.

If I went to Rush Limbaugh's house for a 'coffee' to launch my political career, you would be correct in assuming that I am conservative.

OBAMA WENT TO BILL AYERS' HOUSE.

If I worked with Bill Bennett on an educational program for school children, you could infer that I believe in education rooted in the classics and Judeo-Christian principles.

OBAMA WORKED WITH BILL AYERS.

If I built a resume like Mitt Romney did: saved the Salt Lake City Olympics, was governor of a state, and became a very successful businessman, you could assume I am a leader and serious about preparing myself for the highest executive office in the land.

SHORTLY A YEAR AFTER BEING A U. S. SENATOR, BARACK OBAMA (BUOYED BY THE ACCOLADES HE RECEIVED FOR HIS 2004 DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION SPEECH) DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

If I voted against third trimester abortions, you would surmise that I believe in the sanctity of human life.

BARACK OBAMA SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO A THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTION.

If I sought ways to make affordable free market health care available to all Americans, you could assume that I believe that your dollars are best spent in a competitive market and not by Washington bureaucrats, who have no incentive to make a profit (and therefore provide the best product at a competitive price).

OBAMA WANTS THE GOVERNMENT VERY INVOLVED IN HEALTHCARE.

If I went to a church that preached that "Jesus loves the little children of the world -- red and yellow, black and white", you could believe that I had found the grace of the Living God, because I love my brother who I can see (I John).

OBAMA WENT TO A CHURCH (FOR 20 YEARS) THAT PROPAGATES THE RACIALLY DIVISIVE AND ERRONEOUS BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY.

Simply put, after all the campaign speeches are done (and even the professional fact checkers disagree on what is true and what is false), when you get behind the voting booth curtain, you will vote for who you can trust.

There are reasons to distrust John McCain. There are many, many more reasons to distrust Barack Obama.

With all that said ... I miss my friend. I think I will ask her to join myself and others for lunch November 5 and maybe I will hear her easy, joyful laughter again.
At October 10, 2008 12:29 PM , john robinson said...

I would like to say this more diplomatically, but I don't want to waste anyone's time or to confuse people by beating around the bush.

It is not a black man per se that most of us object to (most of us cheer on black men like Pastor Keith Butler, former Congressman J. C. Watts, and scores of anointed black pastors and singers, not to mention the myriad number of black lay believers we deeply enjoy the fellowship of).

It is a certain TYPE of black man we object to --- and Barack Obama is that type. What type you ask? Simply put, the liberal, deceitful type.

What do I mean by liberal? The kind of Robin Hood, take-from-the-middle-class-and-give-to-the-poor, class-envy spouting philosophy often advocated by Democrats. The redistribution of wealth is not the way for all Americans to reach prosperity. Hard work is. To further explain liberal to you, I mean the kind of candidate that will look the other way while gruesome third-trimester abortions are performed, usually for no better reason than the inconvenience the poor child would have caused some irresponsible couple. I mean the kind of candidate that seems to be always be able to see good in our enemies, but derisively mocks fellow conservative citizens.

What do I mean by deceitful? Senator Obama has worked very, very hard to cover up that he is the kind of liberal I just spelled out for you. He very cunningly --- and deceitfully --- portrays himself as a friend of evangelicals (unless he is is in San Francisco, of course!), and a moderate candidate. When you hang out with Black Liberation theologian Jeremiah Wright, left-wing kook Father Pfleger, the far left-wing political shakedown organization Acorn, and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, you are not moderate --- and if you portray yourself that way to win an election, you are deceitful.

That's the kind of black man I don't like. In fact, I don't like white men, red men, yellow men, or any men like that.

So, quit the false accusation of racism. Having had the whole thing explained to you, to go on mischaracterizing opposition to Obama as racist might very well be evidence of deceit on your part, as well.
At October 10, 2008 12:30 PM , barrington said...

THE TRUTH ABOUT REPUBLICANS AND ABORTION

It is wearisome to keep reading the comments of Obama supporters who clearly do not understand the issues that attend the discussion of abortion (the level of ignorance suggests that these folks only become engaged in politics every four years, and at that, do not go much deeper than, We Need Change!)

I will say it simply: President George W. Bush did keep his promise to use the power of his office to oppose abortion. Even more directly, he did everything possible to oppose abortion.

You see, George Bush cannot reverse the noxious practice of abortion by presidential fiat.

Roe v. Wade (the wellspring of that noxious practice) was a Supreme Court decision that allowed babies to be terminated within their mother's wombs.

That decision CAN BE overturned by the Supreme Court. The court would have to revisit the issue and the decision to be overturn would have to be by a simple majority vote, 5-4.

Many legal scholars --- like Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia --- believe that Roe v. Wade was a poor decision. Generally, legal scholars believe that, NOT because they have a specific moral view of abortion (they may have, but that is not their reason for rejecting Roe v. Wade), but because they are strict constructionists, who believe that:

*** The people's elected representatives make the law

*** The president and the rest of the executive branch carry out the law

*** and, the Supreme Court makes decisions when the law is in dispute

The people and their representative did not enact an abortion law. The Supreme Court justices legislated from the bench.

Now, besides Scalia, there are three other strict constructionists on the Supreme Court: Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Samuel Alito, and Justice Clarence Thomas (I love the guy, so I guess allegations that I am racially prejudiced are hooey).

That makes four potential votes to overturn Roe v. Wade. Since the appointments of Roberts and Alito, there have not been any openings on the court so there was nothing more Bush could do.

However, Justice John Stevens is 213 years old (okay, okay he is 88) and needs to retire. I have no doubt he will retire in the next four years. Being that Stevens is a liberal, I also have no doubt that he stayed on through the end of Bush's tenure in hopes that a liberal like Senator Obama would be elected and fill Steven's seat with another liberal, keeping the composition of the court the way it is now.

So, again, this nonsense that Bush was president for eight years and did nothing about abortion is just that --- nonsense. He did ALL he could do ... and I thank him for that and honor him for that. (And to JAY, who obviously misunderstands the Harriet Miers' story: Harriet, too, would have been a strict constructionist justice. She was opposed because many conservatives felt she --- lacking legal scholarship --- would get run over by the liberals on the court.)

Now, about this election. McCain says --- without equivocation --- that he will appoint justices and judges to the bench that are strict constructionists like Roberts and Alito. And despite all the other issues on our nation's plate right now, I would vote for McCain just on that important promise alone. AMERICA MUST NOT have its laws legislated from the bench but by our elected representatives, else our freedoms will be in jeopardy.

Finally, WHAT IF the Supreme Court gets an opportunity to revisit Roe v. Wade and overturns it? Abortion is over in America, right? Not, necessarily.

The matter would then likely be taken up by each of the 50 state legislatures (where it should have been to begin with). Who can predict what each state would do? But, at least it would be the decision of the people's elected representatives, not nine justices.
At October 10, 2008 12:30 PM , daly.de.gagne@gmail.com said...

Ellen --- you got me fair and square! The Joe McCarthy comment was over the top, and I am smiling as I write this because that's what I was thinking when I wrote the post you are now commenting on -- I should have had the guts to draw reference to the Joe comment myself.

To even mention someone today in the same breath as the old senator is a heavy put down, the impact of which I overlooked in my post as I focused solely on trying to make a point. I apologize to you and others for that comment.

And again, thanks and blessings to you Eleen for calling me on it.

Daly
At October 10, 2008 12:35 PM , ellen said...

that is so honorable, daly! I mean that! as christians we do make mistakes, but acknowledging them and changing is so very important!Thanks for your good example to all of us.
At October 10, 2008 12:46 PM , Anonymous said...

the fear-mongering and guilt-by-association tactics in this article is deplorable. why must the church resort to such an un-christian strategy? do we not trust in God? just because obama is leading right now, why respond as the world would respond? and plus, we think that political power will change the world. jesus never held a political office, yet the world has never been the same. there was a period in bush's administration where they had control of congress and the court for two years, yet there was no push to end abortion. abortion was also rampant during reagan's administration. the church needs a different strategy.
At October 10, 2008 12:48 PM , Anonymous said...

READ BARRINGTON ABOVE AND YOU WILL LEARN, anon 12:46.

Funny that you posted right after he spelled it all out.
At October 10, 2008 12:51 PM , nathan said...

he's spouting a demo talking point dude
At October 10, 2008 12:51 PM , karl said...

He wont understand Barrington.His mind is made up.The facts would just keep his mind spinning in circles at night.
At October 10, 2008 12:53 PM , karl said...

What's with Ellen and Daly?

"love is in the air" la la la
At October 10, 2008 12:56 PM , nathan said...

not if it is THAT ellen

hehehe
At October 10, 2008 12:59 PM , Anonymous said...

we should be ashamed for demonizing barack obama. sure, he may differ on our views, but to make him out to be an agent of satan is an entirely different thing. i'm sure we wouldn't do this with our non-christian friends, family members, and co-workers. gosh! disagree, but do not demonize. when jesus talked to the samaritan woman in john 4, he showed respect for her. she had twisted theology and was caricatured by the jews as being evil for being a samaritan, but jesus respectfully disagreed with her theology and won her over. follow jesus, not the ungodly ways of political smearing. plus, we do not truly know the heart of barack obama so let's not act like we really know him. presumption is a sin. maybe he does have good intentions and deeply cares about america. if he's going about it the wrong way, disagree, but don't demonize him.
At October 10, 2008 1:01 PM , pastor seth armstrong said...

No one is demonizing.

You sound like the same lame crowd that tried to shout down Matt Drudge about Bill Clinton and Lewinsky.

Y'all didn't get away with it then, and you may not this time, either.

Your buddy, your "messiah" is gonna have to answer questions.

Too bad. So sad.
At October 10, 2008 1:06 PM , nathan said...

charles manson is a murderous nut. he is insane. he should never be allowed on the streets again.

did i just demonize him? no i told the truth.

Obama ... his record ... AND his beliefs need to be exposed. The truth needs to be told.
At October 10, 2008 1:08 PM , nathan said...

lol seth "too bad. so sad."

we better not be too nasty tho .. huh?
At October 10, 2008 3:33 PM , watching you said...

Since Mr. de Gagne, who hails from our 51st state, Manitoba (oh, he's not American? who knew), is so concerned that we hold Mr. Strang's feet to the fire, perhaps I shall take it on myself to hold the de Gagne feet to the fire.

Mr. Winnipeg, you are aware, aren't you, that today, to the chagrin of some of his followers, McCain told an arena full of supporters that the political discussion must be respectful.

Because I know you must take time to engage yourself in reading psychology books and playing with your scheduler, I just wanted you to be aware of this tidbit.

They do allow pro-McCain news in Winnipeg, right?
At October 10, 2008 3:43 PM , Anonymous said...

I have an answer to all of this back and forth. If Obama becomes president- you can always leave the country and live somewhere else. If McCain becomes president - guess what- you can leave too.
At October 10, 2008 4:44 PM , Anonymous said...

What would Jesus do if confronted with somebody like Obama? Probably cut his nuts off and shove them up Obama's ass.
At October 10, 2008 5:02 PM , Anonymous said...

If Obama is elected, on signal the giant pink ameobas will rise out of the ocean and engulf our cities. Their armies of yellow polka-dot ferrets will herd the rest of the good god-loving Americans into cages and breed them for their appendices, which will be fed to gay penguins. Life as we know it has already ended, pray it doesn't happen to you.
At October 10, 2008 6:08 PM , james said...

kelly, and all who are against Senator Obama,which is your choice,
what do think about a person(s) who belonged to a group that wanted the state of Alaska to be seperate from the USA, Wants to drill for oil without researching the fossils fuels that will be release and continue to help cause global warming, A man who's wife, along with himself, makes money off of beer (alcohol), A person who used and abused their power in office? Is this what God wants? Be advised most of Obama's so called liberal views are based on the Constitution of this land. He's a Constitutional Lawyer, and I don't care what people say, the Constitution was based on biblical principles and was written by Christian men. Read about Senator Obama for your self. I'm against abortion, and believe pro-life and pro-choice have good points, but out of all of God's creations, he gave us all a will, not a spirit of fear. I believe in all of the gifts that the word of God speaks about, but if you don't have love, you have nothing. Where is your love. Brother Strang, the true American is the American Indian, are you speaking out against how they are treated? Are you speaking out against terrorism and racism that's been going on in this country since and before Plymouth Rock. Senator Obama represent all nationalities, that's what true America is about. Jesus Christ (God in the flesh) came and died for everyone. When He walked the earth He walked among the poor, sick,and those in need. I'm sure there were homosexuals there as well.Christ loved them, not the sin, but them. He met them where they were, and healed their broken hearts.It seems to me that is the path Senator Obama want's to take and will. We need to sit down and talk to our enemies. The bible tells us to love our enemies in spite of. How can we spread the Love of God if we don't sit down and talk to people. The world doesn't see God (Jesus)in America anymore. We need the respect we once had, not everyone hating us and wanting to kill us. If God is for us who can be against us. We are to trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. God thoughts are not our thoughts. We need to trust in Him and Him only. Not brother Strang, Obama, McCain democrats, independents,republicans or any man. As I said in my last comment, God is in control and He knows more than us. It's all God's plan.
At October 10, 2008 6:55 PM , jason k said...

i was going to respond to ur longwinded speech james but i c barrignton already handed u ur ...... hat....all of ur points have been countered on this blog..i dont want to waste space going over all of it again..perhaps u should ask urself if u r racist..its not just whites who r racist u know
At October 10, 2008 7:12 PM , chief dan said...

James, you are speaking against racism, yet you use the term, American Indian. What in the world is an American Indian? Is it like a Circle Square?

We are the First Nations people, North American aboriginal people, or Native Americans.

Please do not use the white man's racist term for us. It is offensive.
At October 10, 2008 7:26 PM , tennessean said...

A good sermon for this turbulent time can be SEEN here:

http://www.christchurchnashville.org/sermons.htm

Pastor Dan Scott preaching --- he spends some time on the Esther story.
At October 10, 2008 8:32 PM , Anonymous said...

There is no way a born-again, Spirit-filled, blood-bought believer could EVER vote democrat, the party of antichrist, or worse, for the most unChristian and unAmerican candidate to come down the pike--Barak Hussein Obama. To the borthers and sisters of color who profess to love God and righteousness, but who defend Obama and will vote for him--you are denying your faith by supporting such wickedness and revealing your own racism. The only reason a "Christian" black would vote for Obama is because he is black. Nevermind the man is antichrist! You are sell outs and traitors to the cause of Christ if you vote racially rather than Scripturally. I am NOT saying the Republican party is Christian or to be supported every time, but they welcome Christians and our worldview to the table, whereas democrats HATE US, OUR GOD AND HIS LAWS. Obama is a snake.
At October 10, 2008 8:33 PM , daly.de.gagne@gmail.com said...

Watching You, I never thought of my being Canadian as a great secret though it may not be known well to this group. Winnipeg is a wonderful city, we have news of all kinds -- right, left, and center, Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama and all kinds of other folk. We may differ about whether it is Manitoba you really want as your 51st state (grin) -- would you settle for Saskatchewan, or Ontaro (and that includes Toronto). Winter is better in Ontario, so perhaps annexing it from Thunder Bay east might be a way to go.

Seriously, if I thought I was hiding something, I wouldn't use my name -- or I might pick something more common, such as Anonymous. Or Watching You Back.

Blessings Bro from the Northlands,

Daly
At October 10, 2008 9:06 PM , watching you said...

Just wanted to make sure you had a well-rounded picture of McCain. As you know, it's quite easy to get all worked up about someone in political life, then ignore it when you hear something than contradicts your opinion, eh?
At October 10, 2008 9:10 PM , grieved said...

I pray that my fellow believer in 8:32 reconsiders their tone and pauses to think that Republicans and Democrats often find themselves sharing barracks and foxholes ... and fight together as Americans.
At October 10, 2008 9:25 PM , Anonymous said...

The anonymous at 8:32 is full of religious foolishness. That is what happens when people cannot think for themselves. Your ignorance is on another level.
At October 10, 2008 11:03 PM , uh-oh said...

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday.
At October 10, 2008 11:50 PM , Anonymous said...

If I understand the Obama supporters correctly - and I think I do - I guess they think that if America was a good nation the only possible outcome of the election would be 120,000,000 to 50 (assuming John McCain has about 49 relatives and friends).

Seriously, I am up to here with the offensive suggestion that the only reason someone is voting for John McCain is that they are racist.

C'mon, there is no way anyone thinks that Obama is experienced enough and has such good policies that he should win in a landslide (of any proportions).

George McGovern was a flaming liberal. And he got beat.

Walter Mondale, same thing.

Michael Dukakis, too.

America doesn't like ultra left-wing policies, so if the Democratic Party wants to send up that kind of a candidate they should expect a lot of resistance.

And anyone in here that thinks that Obama is not ultra left-wing at his core, THAT PERSON and millions of others are the reason so much effort must be expended to reveal the REAL OBAMA.

Get real. And you Christians that are supporting Obama, go right ahead, but drop the racism charges against your Christian brothers and sisters. Because there are many reasons to oppose Obama.

Or do you expect that if we all get our hearts right (as you see right), Obama should win

120,000,000-50 ?

Wise up.
At October 11, 2008 7:11 AM , Anonymous said...

It is articles such as these along with many of the comments that spew hate and division that helps me understand why the "church" has lost credibility in the world. I wonder if God cares more about this election than how He is being represented by those who claim to be called by His name. We really need to search our hearts and see who we really belong to and how well are we representing his values.
At October 11, 2008 8:13 AM , Anonymous said...

Barack Obama will be the next President. If it were not God's will he would not have been raised up by God at such a time as this. I've heard all of the pros and cons and the fear. However, I remember the proclamation given in 2002 by prophet Kim Clement that God was going to raise up an African American to be President of the United States Unfortunately, church leaders have given Clement hell since that time for prophesying such a thing. It's God's will for Barack to become President to bring balance to what has been going on in government.

Obama does not favor abortion nor same sex marriage, but he supports one's constitutional right to make their own decision, and guess what? God takes the same position. We all have a right to make our free will choice.

When you think of about it, who really has a track record of ministering to the poor and needy? Barack of course in his community service.

Do you honestly think that this former Harvard Law Review President went down years ago to those poor, poverty stricken neighborhoods, for justice sake, to use as a platform to become President of the United States? Besides, he is the only one that I heard with my own ears, while looking at the cameras, say that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. Are you going to judge the veracity of his statement?

Who was first to promote the word CHANGE? Now every one is talking about it. Obama will win. God will see to that. He will not only just win, but he will win by a landslide. And of course, once again, the wise will be confounded.
At October 11, 2008 8:39 AM , Pastor Mark Arnold said...

Dear Steve Strang:

I personally want to thank you for starting the ball rolling in the right direction. These are very tough times we live in. All of your reasons can be backed by the Word of GOD. One thing most people don't want to accept or even have to respond to is that there is a demarcation line drawn in the sand. Demarcation being "the setting or marking of boundaries or limits." And also, "A separation, a distinction." In Football there are sidelines and direction markers all over the playing field.
In Basketball one has to stay on the court of play and the ball has to be bounced...so even that game has rules that people appreciate.
In baseball there are the right and left field foul line...and anytime the ball goes across those lines then it's a foul ball.
People don't mind having rules and measuring lines in whatever sport they so firmly adhere to...but when it comes to GOD'S HOLY WORD and HIS DIVINE TEXT...not many want to play by HIS rules.
GOD clearly pointed us in the right direction and gave us plenty of room to play the game of life on by giving us HIS TEN COMMANDMENTS. I don't hear anyone changing the rules in football or baseball or basketball...so why is all the people so mad at GOD and so mad at Christian believers who are trying every way possible to lead their family in the proper direction? All GOD is wanting to do is come back into the most blessed Nation on this earth. As America goes so goes most of the world...yet everyone wants to make GOD go stand in the corner...while they change all the spiritual markers that really lead to us scoring the game-winning-points!

Don't stop, continue being the "spiritual referee" and even when it hurts some folks...speak up for the boundaries and lines that are placed there for all of us to see.

As a Pastor, I definitely want everyone all over the world to know that I'm on the WALL. I'm not ashamed of the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST...for it is the POWER OF GOD unto my SALVATION.

Where are the real men of GOD?
Where are the real women of GOD?
Where is the voices in the Church?
Where are the Pastor's who can make a difference?

I'm standing, shouting and proclaiming...I see a "spiritual marker" in place...come this way...and be safe!!!
Pastor Mark Arnold
www.agreeinprayer.com
At October 11, 2008 8:56 AM , Lilena said...

I respect your opinion and certainly your right to express it. There is a great deal you are overlooking, however, and that's the egregious lapses of character and integrity on the McCain-Palin side, most recently the hateful discourse and fomenting of racist sentiment. To your version of Christian politics, I say, thanks, but no thanks. I'm a Christian, too, and I want nothing further to do with the lies, hypocrisy and ugliness coming from this campaign.
At October 11, 2008 8:58 AM , DON said...

Thank you, Steve Strang, for stepping up and speaking out. I know this kind of message can create division between our friends. However, speaking the truth is of critical preference to maintaining frienships with those who do not want to face the truth. God's Word says, "You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." Also, it says, "My people perish from lack of knowledge." At the very first time I saw the face of Barrack Hussein Muhammed Obama several months ago, the Holy Spirit revealed to me he was being supported and driven by a subversive force and that he was not his own man. That is why he can say nothing of significance because he has to hold back until he can unleash the forces influencing him in their agenda. I believe it is total Islam. The leaders in God's kingdom must be willing, as you have been, to step up and declare the truth and trust this nation will come to accountability once again. Yes, prayer is of ultimate importance but along with it also come the responsibility to expose evil. I have, as you have, many friends but my purpose is to be all God has for me even in the face of losing the friendships I so cherish. If I see a friend walking into a fire or a land mine and do not warn him, I have failed him. If he chooses to still move in that direction, he has made the choice for destruction and often takes other with him. My ultimate prayer is that God would bring Obama to realize his need for the only Savior of mankind - Christ Jesus - and turn his life over to our loving Father who wants the best for all of us.
At October 11, 2008 8:59 AM , a friend said...

lilena, McCain and Palin do not support a woman's right to have her baby's head crushed in her .. no, their .. third trimester
At October 11, 2008 9:02 AM , peter said...

Don, I am not as sure as you are that Islam is driving Senator Obama, but I do know that his former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is very comfortable with that egregious race-baiter, Louis Farrakhan, who is, of course, Muslim.
At October 11, 2008 9:12 AM , henry acheson said...

Could you imagine Pastor Keith Butler traveling with Louis Farrakhan to meet with Gaddafi?

Of course you can't.

Keith Butler is filled with the Holy Spirit.
At October 11, 2008 9:14 AM , The Emrys said...

Henry, you might have had a hard time with Jesus. He hung out with folks that the religious crowd hated, too.

And He was filled with the Holy Spirit.
At October 11, 2008 9:15 AM , happy on a saturday said...

Well, at least you have to say that LILENA registered her disagreement peaceably. We need more of that in here.

(P. S. Thanks to Barrington for what amounts to a teaching on abortion. I didn't know some of that stuff and I read the paper every single day.)
At October 11, 2008 9:17 AM , henry acheson said...

Dear friend, emrys, if you think that rebuts my point about Keith Butler, please amplify your's - what would you think if Butler traveled, as a friend, with Farrakhan to meet with Gaddafi?
At October 11, 2008 9:42 AM , Anonymous said...

ASHEVILLE, N.C. (AP) — Evangelist Billy Graham was hospitalized Saturday after tripping and falling over one of his dogs at his North Carolina home, a hospital spokeswoman said.
At October 11, 2008 10:44 AM , The Emrys said...

If Butler went to meet Gaddafi? I would praise God that He made an opening for Brother Keith to speak to Gaddafi.

Or is it just nice people you think believers are called to speak to?
At October 11, 2008 12:56 PM , jay said...

Reading some of the religious elitism on this blog I can understand why the religious elite hated Jesus all the more when he told the story of the good Samaritan.

Samaritans were idol worshippers. They had diluted the worship of the true God with pagan dieties. A good God fearing Jew had nothing to do with this lot.

And yet Jesus' story revealed that that idol worshipping Samaritan had more of the love of God than the Levite and the priest who served in God's temple.

Can you imagine if Jesus told a story of the "good Muslim" how today's conservative would lynch him then and there!

And then there is this pastor in Virginia telling God that if McCain doesn't win people will think their God is stronger than Him. LOL!!!!! I guess the guy never read the book of Daniel.

But Strang is trying to convince us, that the Obama devotees are the only fanatics that gone over the deep end.
At October 11, 2008 1:31 PM , lol at jay said...

Just looking for some way to be right in all this, huh Jay? Well, keep trying.
At October 11, 2008 1:41 PM , The Emrys said...

Jay is talking sense.
At October 11, 2008 1:42 PM , barrington said...

Tell you what, Jay. You are right. Obama is a wonderful man. Everyone who opposes him is a narrow-minded bigot, with the additional issue of being a spiritual pygmy. We were blind until you removed the scales from our eyes to see that higher taxes (including capital gains taxes during a deep recession), universal healthcare mandated by the government, third-trimester abortions, and an ultra left-wing social agenda (to include our educational system ... oh yes, follow the Ayers-Obama joint efforts in Chicago) are really the way America should be headed. We turn in our white sheets and hoods now. You have found us out.

Happy to falsely accuse us, Jay? Good. Now, shoo ... shoo, I tell you.
At October 11, 2008 1:54 PM , Anonymous said...

Jay is making sense. If you listen with spiritual ears instead of political ears, you’ll get it.
At October 11, 2008 1:58 PM , zoologist said...

Obama is listening with elephant ears.
At October 11, 2008 2:01 PM , Anonymous said...

Oooouch! Steve allowed his sheeps coat to slip, the fanged wolf is now exposed.

For God shall bring every thing into judgement; with every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil.

The first price will pay is with the mass cancellation of subscriptions and boycott of his magazines.

I agree - bring his income to below $250,000 and let him experience the truth!
At October 11, 2008 2:04 PM , larry, tulsa, ok said...

friends, its time to quit goofing around arguing back-and-forth. go to your ATM ... NOW ... and get money out..the IMF says the world economy is teetering on collapse..get money..get food..get gas...maybe a gun...peace on your house
At October 11, 2008 2:05 PM , Anonymous said...

Oooouch! Steve allowed his sheeps coat to slip, the fanged wolf is now exposed.

God shall bring every thing into judgement Steve; with every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil.

The first price Steve will pay is with the mass cancellation of subscriptions and boycott of his magazines.

I agree - bring his income to below $250,000 and let him experience the truth!
At October 11, 2008 2:13 PM , barrington said...

Steve is a better businessman than you realize (after all, he has made a HUGE success of a mediocre product ... e.g., it does not stand up to Christianity Today).

Be that as it may, Steve obviously counted that cost that you suggest when he went on this crusade for McCain. I actually see principle over profit, whether one agrees with him or not.

I happen to agree with him, I would just make the case differently.
At October 11, 2008 2:32 PM , Anonymous said...

II Thes. 2:3-12: “Let know man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first. … Even him whose coming is after the working of satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED. AND FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE, THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.”

Mr. Strange, you have been PALLING AROUND way too long with that ungodly alliance – Peter Wagner, Dutch Sheets and Chuck Pierce!!! During the course of this campaign, it has been shown that McCain and Palin represent everything that is Anti-Christ with their hatred spewing forth. I now understand it when the Bible says that “God shall send them strong delusion.” I understand your grand delusion. Now that the Day of Atonement has come and gone, I actually feel sorry because your fate for the coming year has been sealed.

God Bless America! Stand beside her and guide her through the night with the light from above!!!
At October 11, 2008 2:44 PM , Anonymous said...

McCain showed some class today in a campaign. I think he has realised that the hate mongering might cost him the election. Please read below:

"I don't trust Obama," a woman said. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."
McCain shook his head in disagreement and said
"No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with (him) on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about."
He had drawn boos with his comment: "I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."

The anti-Obama taunts and jeers are noticeably louder when McCain appears with Palin, a big draw for GOP social conservatives. She accused Obama this week of "palling around with terrorists" because of his past, loose association with a 1960s radical. If less directly, McCain, too, has sought to exploit Obama's Chicago neighborhood ties to William Ayers, while trying simultaneously to steer voters' attention to his plans for the financial crisis."

Judge for youself.
At October 11, 2008 2:54 PM , Anonymous said...

BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY?!?!? If you are a Christian, you should also be a person who believes in liberation theology. After all, Jesus came to set the captives free, right? It takes a very twisted mind to come up with a negative connotation of Jesus setting the captives free. He is our Jubilee!!!
At October 11, 2008 3:24 PM , Anonymous said...

God.TV's recent email blaming witches and warlocks for the demise of the Lakeland-cesspool was unbelievable. I only mention this because Steve's hysteria is actually the same type of fear that God is not omnipotent. (Like God can't handle a couple of witches when His power shows up.) The word of God says that you cannot curse what God has blessed. If McCain is blessed, he will be president. If Obama is blessed, then he will be president. I am confident that come November 4th whoever wins this election, God's will will be done and that His country will go on the path of His choosing. I am very confident when God says that whatever plant He did not plant, He will uproot (just like He did in Lakeland).
At October 11, 2008 4:11 PM , theologian said...

Anon at 2:54

We get it --- you don't have theological training. That's okay. You're a believer, that's what is important.

Save yourself some embarrassment, though. Don't go around promoting Black Liberation Theology. It is an aberrant co-opting of the gospel.
At October 11, 2008 4:30 PM , theologian said...

Should Mr. Wu have his own Chinese Liberation Theology? Should Mr. Mancini have his own Italian Liberation Theology? Should Mr. Kotsopoulos have his own Greek Liberation Theology?

How about Swift Running Deer? An North American Aboriginal Liberation Theology? Maybe even caucasian girls who live in trailer parks get their own doctrine --- White Liberation Theology?

Stop the madness people!

The GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST is to the Jew AND the Gentile. He has taken the two and made ONE NEW MAN.
At October 11, 2008 4:41 PM , theologian said...

Since you are misinformed about Black Liberation Theology, go to Google Books and find James Cone's books. You can find large portions online for free (you see, intelligent conservative actually read what the left --- both politically and theologically --- says).

Having done that, if you still want to talk silly about how Black Liberation Theology is a good thing (the Marxist bent, and so on), STOP reading the Cone books and just read the Gospels. Keep doing that until light breaks through the darkness in your mind. Get faithful believers to pray for you, as well.
At October 11, 2008 4:49 PM , jay said...

I know the Samaritan reminder would hit a nerve. Not much has changed in two thousand years. I also notice that there is no repudiation of what I have written. Just the usual partisan zealotry and strained sarcasm.

I have no intention of voting for Obama, but this idiotic, hysterical outcry from many conservatives that would imply that the sovereignty of God is on trial in this election is embarrassing.

These vitriolic rants using Obama's middle name as if it were profanity, the scorning of Arabs and muslims as if they were sub-human and inherently inferior is nothing short of disgraceful. And much of this is coming from Christians.

This is the sort of hateful diatribe I expect from the far left, anti-God crowd, not from people who claim that their hope in is the living Christ.

The Christ of the Bible treated Samaritans and strangers with dignity.

I am evangelical, AND WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA but I want nothing to do with these base and vile taunts and smears being circulated and displayed in full view of a watching world. I wonder how our Arab brethren, who serve God under great persecution, and middle eastern missionaries feel as they watch some us thrash and demonize the people to whom they are sent.

Interesting to see those who take particular umbrage to my posts, although curiosly not a single one was addressed to them.
At October 11, 2008 5:17 PM , wilma, topeka said...

The way I see it, Jay, Barrington put you in your place on the Harriet Miers issue. On your scorecard, are you marking down when you are wrong too?
At October 11, 2008 5:19 PM , wilma, topeka said...

Jay, you said "there is no repudiation of what I have written." Don't take me wrong, but is it possible you are not the focus here?
At October 11, 2008 5:24 PM , wilma, topeka said...

This will be my last one Jay, dear. I don't think you should have brought everyone's attention to your exchanges with others on the blog. I just read Barrington's "Klan" response to you. It might have been a little sarcastic, but was also very funny when he told you to shoo-shoo.
At October 11, 2008 5:26 PM , wilma, topeka said...

I'm sorry, dear. One more thing: I don't think you answered his very good points either. Does that matter?

(Sorry to be a pest)
At October 11, 2008 5:30 PM , jay said...

Wilma, when I'm wrong and get the opportunity to learn something I am seldom offended. I expect to keep learning until the day I die.

The president attempted to give us Harriet Miers. Conservatives rightly objected not only because he was elevating a croney who was not qualified, BUT because she had no record on the issue of abortion. Furthermore she made some statements in the past that indicated that she might be sympathetic towards Rowe. I can post them if you like.

But it seems that you, and a few others are more interested in knowing that someone "put me in my place" or presumably scored a rhetorical point than address the substance of my post.

If you and others are not apart of the far right mob, I find it curios that some seem to take such offense.
At October 11, 2008 5:35 PM , jay said...

And Wilma, lose the endearment. A silly attempt at fatuousness on your part makes your comments look like a junior high taunt.
At October 11, 2008 5:37 PM , wilma, topeka said...

Well, Jay, I am a Republican. But I don't consider myself part of any far-right mob. I think it is sad what is happening to our country. Our economy is just awful. I am not wealthy. I am just a widow and I have lost almost 40 percent of what my husband and sons have invested for me. I also think it is sad that Mr. Obama has gotten away with presenting himself as a moderate person and when that is questioned you get called a racist.

As you know I do not know you and I do not know Mr. Barrington. I just agree with him more. You make some good points but you seem to also have anger and an agenda.

Are you trying to take a speck out of Stephen Strang's eye when there might also be a log in your own?

I do not wish to battle with anyone. I am just waiting for my grandchildren to arrive from Canada (it is their Thanksgiving and they are coming for a few days) so I was at the computer.

A have a blessed evening!
At October 11, 2008 5:40 PM , wilma, topeka said...

Thank you, Jay, for showing me your true colors. You needn't address me anymore.
At October 11, 2008 5:53 PM , jay said...

Wilma, I am an independent. But I tend to support the Republican platform more than I do democrats. But I have been very, very disappointed in much of what I have seen from Bible believing Christians during this election cycle. So you are right in one regard. I am distressed to see the witness of Christ maligned.

When that pastor in Virginia claims for example that God's reputation and greatness is at stake if Obama wins; we need a reality check.

As for you agreeing more with Barrington, heavens sister there is no thought police on the forum. I can deal with that. I am sure that on other issues I may very well agree with the brother.

And John McCain returned to his statesman-like poster when he openly repudiated the nonsense coming from some of his supporters. Good for the senator.
At October 11, 2008 5:55 PM , Anonymous said...

Promoting Black Liberation Theology? See, that's what I'm talking about! You people can take what was simply said and twist it into something that was not intended at all. Did I say I supported what Black Liberation Theology is - NO! I simply said that Christianity is a liberation theology. Jesus came to set the captives free, right? Luke 4:18That is a liberation theology that as Christians we should believe - He came to set the captives free. How can you argue that point?
At October 11, 2008 5:55 PM , jay's fact checker said...

jay .. it's

CRONY

it's

ROE

and

PEOPLE MAKE SPEAK FATUOUSLY, BUT VERY SELDOM WOULD SOMEONE "ATTEMPT IT"

as you are striving to be educated, i was sure you would want to know
At October 11, 2008 5:58 PM , Anonymous said...

Kim Clement is a false prophet. Anyone listening to him and those like him do not know the Scriptures.

If Obama becomes president, it will simply be more proof that God has ABANDONED THIS NATION, which has murdered FIFTY MILLION little babies in 34 years, and many other evil things we now do and promote.

Obama is a liberal--i.e., NOT A BIBLE BELIEVER. He is an unregenerate religious hypocrite who serves Satan and attending a church led by an adulterer and racist demon-possessed loon. The democrat party is a COMMUNIST PARTY. Where do you find communist organizations and with whom do these devils and traitors work with??? the Democrat party. And Obama is friends with Satanists like Farakhan, Ayers the terrorist, other Arab terrorists and lunatics, ACORN and the like.

The problem with most of the black "Christians" I have spoken to about politics is that THEY DON'T CARE WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS. They are BLACK-FIRST, and since the black agenda is antichrist and against our Constitution, you sell out the One you call Lord and your nation as well for a mess of pottage. You are all deceived.
At October 11, 2008 5:59 PM , Anonymous said...

Liberation theology is a school of thought that explores the relationship between Christian theology and political activism, particularly in areas of social justice, poverty, and human rights. The main methodology of liberation theology is to do theology (i.e. speak of God) from the viewpoint of the economically poor and oppressed of the human community.

Liberation theology focuses on Jesus as not only Savior but also as Liberator. Emphasis is placed on those parts of the Bible where Jesus' mission is described in terms of liberation, and as a bringer of justice. This is interpreted as a call to arms to carry out this mission of justice -- literally by some.
At October 11, 2008 6:02 PM , a fan of matt green said...

A Lost Letter from the Apostle Paul

Dear Roman Friends,

As you may know, with the death of our emperor Claudius, Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus now ascends to the throne. I don't need to tell you that this development spells the end of life as we know it, both as Roman citizens and as Christians. As you know, at 16 years of age, Nero has no experience in running the empire and has given no indication that he will respect the rights of the Christian community in his realm.

While there were many reasons for us to not like his uncle Claudius--not the least of which was his lowbrow sense of humor and penchant for bloody games in the coliseum--we can thank him for the expansion of our Roman values to the barbarians in Britain and the expulsion of foreign sorcerers and druids from Rome. Simply put, this has made our job that much easier. Additionally, Claudius has exhibited notable discipline in limiting his romantic attachments exclusively to members of the opposite sex--something we cannot be sure about this young upstart who now ascends to the throne. While Claudius repealed taxes on food for those suffering from the famine, all indications are that Nero will raise taxes upwards to an onerous 4.5 percent. How will we be able to carry out our ministry in such a economically hostile environment?

I tell you all this to encourage you to contact your senators and instigate some type of uprising that might result in the installation of a more worthy candidate to this office--perhaps even one of us. As you know, the dissemination and survival of the gospel depends on an environment conducive to our cause. And a government in which we have influence and control is a government that is ultimately on our side. Perhaps one day we will have an emperor who will be one of us and will assist us in the advancement of the gospel. Perhaps one day we will no longer hide in catacombs and tombs and will be able to build great sanctuaries alongside the palaces of our emperors. Until that day comes, let us work together to establish our Lord's kingdom here on earth--in a way he never imagined.

Grace and Peace,

Paul

Note: The Apostle Paul did not write this, and it is antithetical to his theology. This is intended to be a satire, inspired by recent frantic eruptions from Christians terrified at the prospect of an Obama presidency. One column I read today actually predicted "the end of life as we know it" if Barack Obama were elected. My contention is that Christianity is a religion that has historically thrived in environments in which it is not appreciated and that the transcendant power of the gospel is subversive and countercultural--even to its own adherents. Yes, we should vote and participate in government, but as resident aliens, our citizenship is not here.
At October 11, 2008 6:07 PM , jay said...

thanks for that check. Although I should warn you, you'll have a long night if you stick around to correct my spelling!!!! LOL!!!

Blessings
At October 11, 2008 6:11 PM , jay's fact checker said...

mine typos are manifest, as well

"MAKE SPEAK"

instead of

"MAY SPEAK"

i am waiting for wilma to scold me for trying to take a speck out of your eye ...

thanks for showing good humor when i was being aggressive
At October 11, 2008 6:15 PM , wilma's brad said...

to mr jay

wassup with u man .. me and my brother just arrived at our grams house and she was crying

we asked her wassup and she said some christians were fighting on this chat room and that u were rude to her (we read it and u were)

chill mr christian dude
At October 11, 2008 6:17 PM , wilma's brad said...

fact checker dont type r grams name on here anymore thx
At October 11, 2008 6:24 PM , Anonymous said...

Thank you 5:59. That was beautifully written. Luke 4:18 states, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor, He hath sent me to heal the broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are oppressed." I believe that this is not just spiritual, but also social, emotional, and wherever there is a bondage. Whether the bondage is self-inflicted like addiction, or by a governmental structure like slavery in America's past or the slave trade that is going on today. Not only is Christianity a liberation theology, but a liberation theology was the foundation of America. Remember the phrase, "Give me liberty or give me death." Of course, I could name the Declaration of Independence and the Emanicipation Proclamation, but there are many, many great writings in American history that demanded liberation based upon the tenets of the Bible.

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