Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Obama's "off-the-record" meeting with Christian leaders

I’ve never been invited to meet with a Democratic presidential candidate. So I was surprised when I received an invitation a couple of weeks ago to join “a small group of religious leaders, academics and faith-based organizations” to meet with Senator Barack Obama in Chicago on June 11. Since I am opposed to the leftist political stands of the Democratic Party and of Obama specifically, I didn’t really want to attend.

But I was curious what the junior Senator from Illinois would say to Christian leaders when it’s well known that he supports abortion and the gay rights agenda. In addition, he has ties to Islam as a child through both his father and stepfather. The denomination he has attended as an adult is the most liberal Protestant denomination. The church in Chicago that Sen. Obama and his family attended, Rev. Jeremiah Wright was its pastor. It’s well known that Rev. Wright believes in Liberation Theology. He has also accused the government of spreading the AIDS virus among blacks and famously preached the Sunday after September 11, 2001, that God should “damn America” rather than bless it for all the so-called evils he thinks America is guilty of.

What could he have in common with “conservative” Christian leaders?

I returned from the meeting very concerned. Here is a liberal—Obama--reaching out to the Christian community at a time the conservative--Sen. John McCain--seems to be distancing himself from the so-called “Christian Right.” I think McCain has a lot of work to do to get the support of the Christian community. Obama seemed to have the support of at least half of the 43 leaders who attended the Chicago meeting. And in my opinion, he “made points” with the rest. The tone of the meeting was respectful and generally upbeat.

I was curious to see who would attend. They wouldn’t release a list of invitees ahead of time. It turns out my son Cameron, who founded Relevant Media Group, was also invited. But neither of us knew this until I copied him with an email saying I intended to go, and he told me he was also attending.

The invitation to the meeting stated, “This is an off-the-record (no media) time for questioning and listening, with no expectation of endorsement.”

We were told that some of the attendees, who covered a wide range of the Christian community, wouldn’t come if the meeting was on the record. However, the press had found out and there were news reporters and television camera crews waiting to ask questions as we left the building to get a taxi to the airport. By the time I had arrived at Midway Airport and began to check my e-mails while awaiting my flight to Orlando, someone had sent me a blog that was surprisingly accurate about the meeting (click here to read it). Today an Associated Press report quoted a couple of attendees (click here to read it). Without revealing specifically what was said at the meeting, I’ll confirm that most of the report was accurate.

So I am merely reporting my personal reflections of the meeting with Sen. Obama while keeping my word about it being “off-the-record.”

Sen. Obama personally took time to meet each person and shake their hand. He’s not as large a man as I envisioned from seeing him on television. But, he’s warm and personable --- obviously one of the reasons why people like him. He seemed to remember names well. He hugged a couple of the participants—mostly the black preachers who attended. He also seemed to be on top of the issues; and he’s obviously very intelligent.

The questions were mostly “softball” questions in my opinion. I was concerned after three or four general questions that we wouldn’t ask the most important questions. So I raised my hand and he called on me. I said, “Senator, I want to ask a question I'm sure you are expecting regarding your position on abortion. I represent a segment of the church where nearly everyone considers the issue of supporting life to be the most important issue and where nearly everyone would be opposed to abortion. I want to ask what your stand on abortion is and if you believe what I think you believe, how you justify that with your Christian faith and why you think we should vote for you.”

Since his response was “off-the-record,” I can say that the time he took to answer was probably 15 minutes. He came across as thoughtful and much more of a “centrist” than what I would have expected. He did not appear to be the crazy leftist that is being supported by George Soros and his radical leftist friends. Sen. Obama looked me in the eye as he answered my question, almost as if it were a one-on-one interview. I had already read the chapter on “faith” in his book the “Audacity of Hope.” If you want to know how he answered the question, read that chapter. In other words, other than his demeanor and obvious attempt to win over the Christian leaders in the room, he didn’t say anything new.

I knew personally about one-third of the people in the room. I had heard of another third of the invitees. Some of the people from the more liberal part of the church were unknown to me. Those from the evangelical community tended to be more the ones who are interested in global warming and social justice as well as the two issues conservative Christians are known for—pro-life and pro-family.

You may know that I supported Gov. Mike Huckabee during the primaries. Like Huckabee, Obama was winsome and good with giving extemporaneous answers to difficult questions. I had hoped that Huckabee would have gotten the nomination. Huckabee was never able to raise the kind of money that Obama has raised. But he did get a lot of the grassroots excited as Obama has obviously done.

Sen. John McCain was my second choice for the nomination. He is a true American hero. He has served well in the Senate for many years. He is strong for our national defense at a time we are in a war with Islamic terrorists. And, he is strong for Israel. He also has the right stands, in my opinion, on abortion and the sanctity of marriage.

Unlike Huckabee, he is not comfortable talking about his faith. It’s well known he has a temper and he has been known to swear in public. The fact he divorced the wife who stuck by him and raised his children while he was in a prisoner of war camp to marry a much younger woman, doesn’t sit well with those of us who believe marriage is for life.

But, we’re not electing the person we think is the most righteous. We’re voting on the one we think will lead America in the right direction for the next four years. Whether Obama, Sen. Hillary Clinton or any of the other Democrats had gotten the nomination, I believe the policies they espouse are dangerous not only to the security of our country if they are weak in the battle against terrorism, but they will hurt businesses if there is more governmental interference. And, on the moral issues such as the sanctity of marriage, it’s absolutely scary to think of what will happen if same sex marriage is allowed in this nation. At the same time, the next president will probably nominate not one but several Supreme Court justices to replace some elderly justices who obviously can’t live forever.

My friend Marc Nuttle recounts this in his book “Moment of Truth,” which I highly recommend. You can get it by clicking here.

There’s probably a lot more that I could say about the meeting. But the most significant thing is just the fact that the meeting was held and that several dozen prominent leaders took time to meet with Sen. Obama who I believe won over the loyalties of many.

I urge Sen. John McCain to have a similar meeting—or several such meetings. There is a lot of latent support for him in the Christian community. But after being “still armed” by the McCain camp, while being wooed by the Obama camp, this may be the first time a majority of evangelicals will vote for a Democrat for president since Jimmy Carter, who talked of being “born again” and got many evangelical votes in 1976.

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94 Comments:

  • At June 11, 2008 7:42 PM , Blogger Alan said...

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  • At June 11, 2008 7:44 PM , Blogger Alan said...

    As a committed Christian I am supporting Barack Obama. I believe the Democratic Party best espouses the Christian ideals taught by our Lord Jesus - feeding the poor, caring for the widow, peace making etc.

    I have some concerns over parts of their platform but not as much as I have with the Republican Party's platform.

    I hope the Church in the USA will wake up and cast off its slavish adherence to right wing politics and stand up for the weak and down trodden.

     
  • At June 11, 2008 8:32 PM , Blogger Paul said...

    I used to be a ultra-liberal Massachusetts democrat. After being saved and understanding both sides of the issues, I've become conservative. This doesn't mean uncaring about the poor, etc. It's more based on reality and historical fact.

    Being idealistic is one thing, but naive is another. Liberalism has yet to remove poverty, no matter how many billions have been thrown at it. Don't be fooled by politicians using "Change" as their mantra. Obama's voting record is the most extreme left of anyone in the Senate. This should cause alarms to go off!

     
  • At June 11, 2008 9:05 PM , Blogger Leilani said...

    Thanks for posting this report. I will read the links closely. I actually crossed over on this primary and voted for Obama because I can't stand the governor of Missouri or the Republican party right now. I also think the tactics of the pro-life movement have been ineffective and brought more division to our country. I wish pro-lifers were as involved in issues that affect people outside of the womb -- education, feeding poor children, childcare, single moms, etc. -- issues that are close to my heart. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your meeting.

     
  • At June 11, 2008 9:24 PM , Blogger Katrina said...

    This meeting doesnt surprise me!!
    He is working hard to 'decieve' as many as he can. And if you can be decieved you will be. Its sad to see any of our Christian leaders fall for it!! Very Very sad!!

     
  • At June 11, 2008 10:41 PM , Blogger Steve said...

    I am glad Obama met with religious leaders. It shows an openness and willingness to meet and discuss topics of concern. For too long the Christian community has allowed one political party to own us. This has resulted in disppointment and betrayal at the highest levels. Hopefully this will usher in an era of "common ground" where people can work together for the advancement of Christ and not continue the "us against them" mentality. I see hope and promise on the horizon. I am voting for Obama.

     
  • At June 11, 2008 11:24 PM , OpenID jianco said...

    Steve: I love you brother. You speak the truth in love and have done so ne again here. We simply cannot allow the Obamanation empty suit to be elected.

     
  • At June 11, 2008 11:29 PM , Blogger Seun Kolade said...

    I am just worried that some people will just just the Christian faith to cover up their prejudices. The idea that is being pushed now, with reckless disregard for the total truth of the Christian faith, is that, if you are a true evangelical Christian, you have to be a republican with all the pharaprenalia, otherwise you are liberal. Using the name of the Lord for partisan agenda, that is the ultimate sin, in the manner of Jeroboam who said to the people of God: "These are your God, O Israel". The lord will not take these sort of antics lightly, believe me...

     
  • At June 11, 2008 11:35 PM , Blogger Kenny Chong said...

    I guess that it is easy for someone who is not an American to comment on the upcoming election. After reading your post, I do understand your concern on the 'spiritual' barometer of your next president.I noticed that you have taken pains to paint Obama has someone whom you think is unfit to lead your nation, but what has MacCain done to justify your opinionj that he is the right one? He advocates to say on in the war that drains the US billions of dollars that you all don't have beside losing many of the best live of your prople on a mission based on deceit (even your
    Allies besides UK) has refuse to participate, promote further tax cuts for the top industries and someone who has practically no idea on what is going on in the economic sector of your country.
    We all know that a president is as good as their advisors that they bring into their team and sad to say it seems that Mac Cain seems to think that just because he is a war hero with good connections in Washington makles him the chosen one.
    "Blessed are the peacemakers and they shall be called the children of God."
    The Lord has not finished with everyone yet and with Christian leaders, you all need to work with leaders who are willing to build bridges across the soceities in America. If the Christian leaders do not help to assist potential national leaders who has a desire to bridge the big devide in your nation; then who is going to do it? You seem to feel that the pastor of your church decides your spiritual condition; is it a fair comment?
    I believe it's better for Charisma to stick to issues of god's business and stay out of politics. America deserves the president that they will soon elect. YOu all can form teams to intercede for your nation and for the grace of God to be upon all the potential candidates.
    As far as I know John Mac Cain is not against same sex unions as well and his reply in the Ellen Degeneres shows he is as compromising as anyone else in seek a political advantage.
    From a Christian standpoint, all of them fail and the choice it seems is one of lesser evil.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 3:17 AM , Blogger JDR said...

    When will "Christians" learn that 1) God alone has the answers for ALL issues, and 2) He only responds to those who are in surrendered, submitted relationship to HIM. The "church" is the source of the answers because, supposedly, we are in coordination with THE supernatural God. But the "church" has been content to have endless fifedoms run by "tribal leaders" who looked like big fish in little ponds. Hence, because the "church" was content with DISunity, God did not respond, and we deceived ourselves about our "influence."
    "Church leaders" are chasing people who publicly repudiate them!!! Hello??? Why the chase? Not because of Jesus' reputation, no, no, because of their own need to brag that they are on President so-and-so's speed dial list! I had little in common with the "manifesto," but "useful idiots" is exactly what the "church" is, that is desperate for affirmation from people who unashamedly manipulate their listeners to get POWER over them! Judgment upon AMERICA, all 44% "evangelical" - whatever that is supposed to be worth - will come thru ANY candidate that "wins." God is not on somebody's side - the correct question is, "Who is on the Lord's side?" It is because we so calmly live in Christianity that does not require God's response that now we "support" leaders who do not require Him, as well. We are here, " the greatest democracy in the world" with the abomination candidates that we have because this is who WE are. The next time you pray, "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven," just realize that this prayer is not "democracy," - it is "t_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _" - yeah, that word. That is the only government that will get ALL issues resolved. God made creation so that it can only downward spiral without HIS explicit participation. We seal our own doom, and testify to our deafness when we spend more effort "hearing" pandering politicians - WHO DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS - rather than "leading" the congregations, week after week, into repentance, and a restoration of God's order in our land, among our government, businesses, schools, at ALL levels. That is what WE THE CHURCH are to represent during our lifetimes. Will it take some giant meteor coming to earth to get "evangelical leadership" to change the tel-a-prompters??

     
  • At June 12, 2008 5:15 AM , Blogger stevieg2911 said...

    I appreciate your willingness to attend this gathering even though you knew ahead of time that you probably wouldn't agree with most of the stands of Senator Obama. It reconfirms for me the importance of personally engaging in dialogue on the issues and searching out the stands of each candidate, rather than simply relying on experts and pundants (who always have their own axe to grind) for simple solutions, that most of the time, simply reinforce old, outdated sterotypes.

    Your comments reveal, as you said to Obama, the views of a segment of conservative Christianity who advocate strongly for the importance of personal morality. Yet for me, a mainline pastor, with a strong evangelical- charasmatic streak, issues such as the Iraq war, global warming, and diplomacy among our international friends and "enemies," are equally important, if not more so. If you look deep enough, every candidate will fail on the personal side of righteouness (as we all do as human beings). We're never going to find anyone "good enough" in this regard.

    But here's my real point: I'd like to see us (the Christian community) focus much more on Jesus, and the gospel message and lifestyle, rather than on using the political arena to try to preach our message through public policy. The more Christians have moved from proclaiming the Christian lifestyle to proclaiming the "right political candidate," the more irrelevant our gospel message has become to the secular public.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 6:09 AM , Blogger Barbara said...

    The Word of God states that "the shedding of innocent blood defiles the land." What could be more innocent than the blood of the unborn child? Yet, we continue to have our land defiled through abortion and then wonder aloud why all these bad things happen in our Nation. You cannot choose to live by the parts of the Word that may suit you. Those who would elect a leader who will only carry us further down the this road of defilement, are as responsible as those who commit the heinous acts.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 6:13 AM , Blogger Ticker said...

    "But, we’re not electing the person we think is the most righteous. We’re voting on the one we think will lead America in the right direction for the next four years."

    You sure could have fooled me. The religious far right refuses to support Sen. McCain because he will not kow-tow to them but yet they swoon over the most liberal, far left Senator in the US. Just attending this fiasco without making public your disdain of this candidate's agenda gives the appearance of saying , 'Well, Obama is alright.' I have yet to hear one of the religious far right come out publicly and criticize Obama as they have Sen. McCain. So Senator McCain has a temper, we need someone with a temper to clean up the mess. Best I recall it seems that Jesus had a temper as well. So what he swears sometimes and he diviorced his wife, big deal. I don't believe he supports partial birth abortion now does he as Obama does. I don't believe he has a socialist agenda of taxing anything that makes money and redistribute , now does he.
    The pouty religious far right will not throw their full support behind McCain because the candidate who bobbed and bowed before them did not get nomination. They would rather wrap their righteous rags around themselves and allow someone like Obama to be elected and drag this country into an even deeper depth of leftist agenda than we already are.

    When I hear the far right religious Pharisees began to whine and complain about all the garbage that is being pressed upon this country should Obama be elected, I will be the first to say, I told you so.

    The religious far right needs to get use to the idea that they are no longer the "kingmakers".

     
  • At June 12, 2008 6:18 AM , Blogger Shirley said...

    I'm so offended that you would cite Obama's "ties" to Islam as a reason that he should not be elected. Heck, I'm probably "tied" to Buddhism or something, are you saying that I'm a worse Christian than you just because of that? Please don't say these kinds of things or bring up Obama's "Islamic" middle name--it's just not cool. These are TERRIBLE reasons and will only contribute to misconceptions of Christianity as a narrow-minded group of people who won't step outside of their sheltered, insular worlds (which is NOT true at all!). I appreciate you sharing what happened there, but maybe you could tell us which specific policies McCain supports and Obama denounces that you find important. What reasons do you think will make McCain a much stronger candidate than Obama? Step outside of politics and all that stuff, and think about America. I don't think religious reform will ever come in the form of a politician/president, hence the "separation" of church and state. Maybe if we just let the President handle foreign relations and economics, and Christians focused less on politics and more on people we should be helping and loving, more would get done and we'd be in a better world than we are now.
    I'm also curious, when was the last time you supported/endorsed a Democrat?

     
  • At June 12, 2008 6:30 AM , Blogger peoplethatlove said...

    Amen. The lesser of two evils is John McCain who, at best, is a moderate Republican. To me, that is too liberal for my conservative values. Having said that I will vote for him because Obama is too inexperienced, too liberal, and totally untrustworthy.
    Alan Keyes is the man we needed.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 7:07 AM , Blogger Albert Chisley said...

    I continue to be astounded and disappointed by much of the “Christian Media’s” response to Senator Obama and Senator Clinton. It’s logical to assume that every candidate has flaws and positions that as Christian’s we would disagree with. Unfortunately, in the political climate of present day America if they didn’t they would never get elected in the first place. However, can you not see how dishonest and hypocritical it is to spend so much time and effort in highlighting your concerns with the Democratic Candidates while you overlook and gloss over the issues with the Republican candidates. It’s this very thing that is making Christians positions irrelevant and the butt of jokes in the marketplace. But more than that – IT’S WRONG! Are you a Christian first or a Republican first?

     
  • At June 12, 2008 7:18 AM , Blogger ekwo said...

    I can see from your letter how you have pre-judged Senator Obama and the entire Democratic Party. Your prejudices are also evident-I don't know why you have to emphasize that Obama hugged only the black preachers in the room.

    What you are saying to me Steve is that the true believer must be a Republican and must be share your political persuasion. For a long time Christian journalists like you have continued to promote the false notion that Republican Party as God's own party and ordained by God to bring about the religious reformation we need in America. Sorry, God has started to rain on your party and he is using a man with a name you don't like, with a skin color that is different, with a background you misrepresent and that man is Barack Obama and he will be elected President came November.

    What would Jesus do Steve? He will attend the meeting just like you did and I am glad you went and learnt a whole lot more about this person you pre-judged from a distance. Maybe that should start you and your editorial board thinking about inviting Senator Obama for an interview with Charisma so that we your readers can also get a whole lot of the priviledged information you got in your private meeting with him and other leaders in Chicago.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 7:40 AM , Blogger Alan said...

    'The next time you pray, "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven," just realize that this prayer is not "democracy,"'

    Indeed - and realise that Christ said "My kingdom is not of this world." It is a spiritual kingdom not an earthly one.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 7:43 AM , Blogger Alan said...

    "
    The Word of God states that "the shedding of innocent blood defiles the land." What could be more innocent than the blood of the unborn child? Yet, we continue to have our land defiled through abortion and then wonder aloud why all these bad things happen in our Nation. You cannot choose to live by the parts of the Word that may suit you. Those who would elect a leader who will only carry us further down the this road of defilement, are as responsible as those who commit the heinous acts. "

    And how much innocent blood will be shed if we stay in Iraq for 100 years ...

    Deciding who a Christian is to vote for cannot be reduced to such a simplistic view as you are trying to do. Both candidates are flawed men, both stand for policies that are abhorrent to Christians. It is the lesser of two evils and a fine judgment.

    My judgment comes down on Senator Obama's side - others will come to a different decision. None will burn in hell as a result of it!

     
  • At June 12, 2008 8:43 AM , Blogger RachelBeth said...

    Great blog, thanks for sharing. It grieves me that most "Christians" in America do not see the LIFE issue as an important one. As for myself, I vowed to the Lord to never vote for someone that would support abortion. I pray that the Church would WAKE UP and realize that they are being deceived by this post-modern culture and that we must hold fast to the Bible first and foremost. To quote Martin Luther, "My conscience is captive to the Word of God... to go against conscience is neither right nor safe."

     
  • At June 12, 2008 8:43 AM , Blogger Tony said...

    Wow, I have read most of the comments here, and find it hard to belive we all claim to be saved, I am of african decent, and did not grow up as a christian, I have seen a lot of good and bad in the church, the church I attend is mixed but mosyly caucasian, my point is that the only issues that we as Born again christians should be looking at are ones that affect our walk with christ, no matter what the name or color of the candiate, the world is changing a round us each day, and not for the better, I am a rebublican, but find it hard to back John Mccain because he seems to be ashamed of his faith, two pastors were denounced by him, Pastor Rod Parsley and Pastor John Hagee, we all know what the Bible says about being ashamed, No I am not comparing them, but were does that leave Mccain on moral issues, as For Barack, there are to many unknowns with him, and some of his past friendships, So what do you do, List the things that are important to you, AS A PERSON OF FAITH, the pros and cons for each candidate, and make a rationale decision from that

     
  • At June 12, 2008 9:21 AM , Blogger Tom Winfield said...

    Good report, Steve. Very good points. I am deeply bothered by the lack of spiritual discernment in the Christian leaders being won over by Obama. Many have let their black issues overwhelm their sense of God's rightesouness. T.D. Jakes going on record with CNN that he is excited about the first black man to run for presidents amounts to an endorsement, because he did not modify it by saying as a Christian leader that he cannot support Obama's stand against pro-life and his stand against pro-family by supporting the homosexual agenda. I am worried that McCain has indeed "stiff armed" the Christian community and that he does not "get it" concering our importance to him. Such evidently fuzzy thinking scares me concerning the Fall elections. America is at a big historical crossroad, and if it goes Left in November, with the help of a large segment of the Church, we are in big trouble--with what will be forced upon us, and, in my opinion with God himself. As a nation, we will have turned against Him for a leader who supports what God has made very clear in the Bible that He hates. Bill Bright told me some years ago that America is already lost, unless God sends a great revival that sweeps enough souls into His kingdom to change the tide toward darkness. By the way things are going, I must agree with him. Bill put that sentiment in his book, The Coming Revival, which I helped write for him. He saw this gathering storm and knew that it could very well engulf our nation. Now is the time for true Believers who follow Jesus, who are influenced by the Holy Spirit, to get on their knees and ask our Almighty God to intervene. McCain just isn't doing and saying the kind of things that will gather Christians to him. At the same time, Obama has a steamroller headed straight at us. I am glad that you were invited to the meeting, and your son Cameron as well. I think you have been made a part of our history.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 9:51 AM , Blogger Tom Winfield said...

    The Gathering Storm is a good title for the November elections. In the minds of Blacks, the Whites have so repressed them they are voting for Obama with all their hearts, forgetting their allegiance to their Savior, Jesus Christ, and His righteous ways. Many Whites in the Church have jumped on the band wagaon too. They want CHANGE! Well, none of us likes the way things are going, but why jump out of the frying pan into the fire? The CHANGE Obama promises, without giving details, amounts to same-o, same-o, that is--abortion forever and the enormous increase in homosexual rights, even unto same-sex marriage. America will be tweaking God's nose on those two righteous issues. Dear Lord, save us from it, somehow. Not all of us have gone nuts over the new savior and rock star celebrity, B. Hussein Obama, who has sat under radical Liberation Theology the last 20 years. Some of us want You, Lord.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 10:12 AM , Blogger FMVeg said...

    The point of being Christlike is to take care of the poor, to help those in need. We need socialized medicine, just like we have socialized police and fire departments.
    Also, sometimes being pro-life means taking care of the mother and child AFTER being born, therefore reducing the number of abortions. We can all agree that abortions should be rare. That will ensure it. And Obama is the clear choice.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 10:22 AM , Blogger Vern said...

    If I were to vote today I would write in Huckabee. As a retired pastor and teacher of the Word of God I can not and will not vote for Obama. Anybody who is for abortion is "murderer" (and not a killer). What about Gay (rights)? Is God pleased with that? He is for that too. We could go on and on. I wish folks would check a candidates record and decide on that basis. Remember, a person IS what they have been becoming.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 11:03 AM , OpenID tcapers9 said...

    Tom said....While some are spewing off thier racial and political babble they are the same ones that will have to humble themselves at the end of this election, for as we all know that, "The powers that be are ordained by God." So you still have a chance to take your foot out of your mouth and repent, which you will be doing openly in a few. Selah

     
  • At June 12, 2008 11:09 AM , Blogger Ticker said...

    After further reading I came across two quotes which cause some concern.

    1.The questions were mostly “softball” questions in my opinion.(Steve Strang)

    2.Cizik said participants agreed not to give specifics of Obama's responses to their questions, but that "there was nothing softball about this meeting and that's the way he said he wanted it.".

    My question is, Were you two at the same meeting? How about an explanation?

    Alan, I will address your seemingly leftist ideals which you seem to think is a function of government.
    Jesus taught that Christians were to take care of the poor, the widows etc. No where did he say the Government was to do so.It is frankly not the function of the government to do any of those things. Don't try your WWJD spin with those who know better.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 11:22 AM , Blogger Alan said...

    "Jesus taught that Christians were to take care of the poor, the widows etc. No where did he say the Government was to do so.It is frankly not the function of the government to do any of those things."

    I totally, utterly and passionately disagree. One of the great advances of the last 2,000 years is how we have organised our societies to carry out Jesus' instructions to care for those less well off and dis-advantaged. Society is stronger when we work together. The quality of care should not depend on the size of the local Church or the whims of the Pastor.

    "Whatever you did for one of them you did for me"

     
  • At June 12, 2008 11:31 AM , Blogger JDR said...

    From the variety of responses, one thing is clear. The specific definition of "Christian" that plainly let's one declare that "this one is," and "this one ain't," has been lost. We have let NON-Christians define us, rather than asking for the transforming power to be what God wants us to be. Barna Research Institute has all the stats to prove that "Christian" has whatever meaning, purpose and opinion that anyone wants it to have. Because we have lost our "In or out" definition, then we have lost our ability to unify. "That they might be one" - the forgotten prayer and objective.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 2:44 PM , Blogger viv said...

    As a committed Christian and American resident with no voting rights, I have been following the campaigns with a removed interest. Steve Strang's report, and the subsequent comments, leave me saddened by what Christianity in America has become. Fractured, more passionate about "issues" than God, self-absorbed and lacking in humility.

    This is not a judgement. It's just one person's observation.

    Firstly, the use of Islamic ties against Obama are shocking to me. It only serves to confirm unbelievers' views that Christians are narrow-minded and ignorant. Whether or not he is so inclined I don't know. But the reasons used are laughable to people with some exposure to the outside world. There are countless Christians all over the world with familial, cultural, social or national ties to all sorts of religions and regimes. You don't have to be born Christian to be Christian, thank God for that.

    Secondly, it seems that many people latch onto one or a few issues, and those issues form their definition of the candidate or party. As passionate and well-meaning as they are, does this mean that one Christian's "issue" is more important than another's? Will the President that supports someone's "most important" issue be the President that America needs?

    Thirdly, I echo the comments that point out Mr Strang's pre-conceived notions and judgement of Obama even before the meeting. No leader will be perfect and God uses anyone, even evil kings of old, to do his will. Each candidate espouses to be Christian and each is clearly flawed. Surely God's will can be done via any party or person, and perhaps we should pray first and foremost for that.

    Lastly, there seems to be an overwhelming amount of Christian writings, reports, blogs and forums that passionately debate the characters, beliefs, and even "Christian-ness" of candidates. It seems that someone is always trying to influence someone else, someone is always trying to "expose" someone else, and someone is always intent that their perception or opinion is most likely, or even certainly, correct.

    But I am encouraged by many comments that urge unity, and that remind us that we are Christians first and voters second (or whichever rank you choose). I am especially encouraged by this comment by stevieg2911:

    "But here's my real point: I'd like to see us (the Christian community) focus much more on Jesus, and the gospel message and lifestyle, rather than on using the political arena to try to preach our message through public policy. The more Christians have moved from proclaiming the Christian lifestyle to proclaiming the "right political candidate," the more irrelevant our gospel message has become to the secular public."

     
  • At June 12, 2008 2:47 PM , Blogger Alan said...

    "But here's my real point: I'd like to see us (the Christian community) focus much more on Jesus, and the gospel message and lifestyle, rather than on using the political arena to try to preach our message through public policy. The more Christians have moved from proclaiming the Christian lifestyle to proclaiming the "right political candidate," the more irrelevant our gospel message has become to the secular public."

    Amen!

     
  • At June 12, 2008 4:21 PM , Blogger Shobc said...

    First, the religiuos leaders do not necessarily speak for me. Especially since some of them aren't living the scriptures. Thank God for Billy Graham.

    Second, if someone calls themselves Christian, there are requirements for such. Why wasn't the answer to the question of "Is Christ the way or just a way" given. There is only one reponse to be called a Christian.

    In these last days we need men and woman of God who will not compromise and stand strong on the "Word" May God have mercy on us all.

     
  • At June 12, 2008 9:29 PM , Blogger Chuck said...

    It is scary to see how many people are choosing Obama. It reminds me of Hitler. This whole election period is bad. But what counts is a person’s personal relationship with God (Jesus). We may sometimes think politics can help bring revival, but only the Holy Spirit, God’s Word and God’s church can bring revival. I like Alan Keyes, but I guess I will vote Republican as the lesser of the evils (but not by as much as I would wish). I don’t believe Obama shows the fruits of being a Christian, and if you say many of the Christian leaders at the meeting were impressed, that says a lot about American Christians. Persecution has begun in America, and I think it will be good for the true church in America. You are doing us a disservice by not actually reporting on the meeting, you should not have gone if you thought you were required to give up your freedom of speech. Off the record just meant no press there, not that you couldn’t say anything.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 4:05 AM , Blogger Chuck said...

    How much information do you think Obama knows about you? Does he know about your blog? How many of these comments were produced by "his people"?

     
  • At June 13, 2008 5:27 AM , Blogger Lamario Stripling said...

    I am really concerned about the staff at Charisma in its attempts to spread news about Barack Obama without fairly criticizing his counterpart, John McCain. I didn't attend the meeting so I am not sure what transpired with Obama, but what I am sure of is that he had the courage to meet with the religious community, while McCain is distancing himself from us. Again, the major eye opener is that McCain rejects the endorsements of religious leaders and you expect us to vote for him? Truly amazing. The fact that Obama met with Christians speaks volumes. Why? So glad to answer this question. Prayer changes things. The effectual fervent prayers of the righteous avails much.

    I see hope with Obama and actually can feel a shift in this country. I am very disappointed with Charisma, J. Lee Grady, and Stephen Strang with their so called concern for Christians. The truth of the matter is that you should be praying for God's will to be done on earth as in heaven.

    For the first time I am considering cancelling my subscription to Charisma and certainly removing my email address from Charisma related newsletters.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 5:31 AM , Blogger Chuck Staab said...

    Does anyone think that Obama reminds them of the anti-christ? I am a well educated Christian physician who is worried about the direction of this country. Obama is a smooth talker and seems to always say what his audience wants to hear. He reminds me of the "Father of Liars". Witness his comments about PA "hunters" and his warm, centrist comments to you. I have decided to pray for him but he will not get my vote.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 5:42 AM , Blogger Priscilla said...

    As I have watched this current political scene and observed those who call themselves 'committed Christians' get sucked into a world view that directly opposes the Word of God,I am more and more convinced that we are approaching the End of Days.(Matthew 24)
    We have been duped into believing that as American citizens we must follow one political party or another. That is not true. We should use the intellence that God has given us and vote for individuals based on God's standards, NOT based on our pocketbooks or our favorite causes.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 6:41 AM , Blogger Carl said...

    I'm a pastor of a non-denominational pentecostal/charismatic church in Southern California. I grew up in Southern Illinois as a member of the COGIC denomination, and served as 8 years as an assistant pastor to Bishop Benjamin Crouch (Andrae Crouch's dad). I voted for GWB in the last two elections, but it is very disturbing to me how his administration led us into war with Iraq based on "intelligence" that is now proving to be poor speculation at the least and criminally irresponsible at the most. I believe that both abortion and homosexuality are choices - ungodly, bad choices. But it disturbs me that the Christian community is trying to act as though these are the only important issues that we face as a country - and is so willing to ignore all of the other destructive things that have happened to our country during the watch of the current "conservative" administration, including the needless sacrifice of thousands of lives in Iraq, the irresponsible cost of that war's devastating effect on our economy, failure to improve our education system...and on and on. An ineffective church - not government - has always been the leading contributor to moral and social problems. With divorces, teen sex & pregnancy, substance abuse, business fraud - all occuring within the church family at the same rate as non-church goers, I think our concerns are conveniently being misplaced. To select a president merely based on his/her party affiliation is no longer a sound practice. Evangelicals like to harken back to the Reagan years as an example of a president who valued our beliefs, while ignoring the fact that Nancy Reagan had an astrologist who had as much influence on her and her husband as any pastor. How about believers praying and doing the grassroots Christian work we should be doing in our communities instead of cultivating the exclusive congregations that tend to focus so much of our resources on inreach programs at the expense of meaningful outreach and upreach. I don't agree with radical black liberation theology, but I also don't agree with pastors who live extravagantly off their congregations, have affairs with women and men, or neglect their parental responsibilities to their children. I don't know who I'll vote for, but I believe that the king's heart is still in the hands of the Lord, and a praying church can have more impact than a political party leader.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 7:29 AM , Blogger Dionne said...

    This is such an interesting time in American politics. This election season has probably garnered more attention than any in recent history. It has brought many issues and sore spots into the limelight that we citizens of the US have largely been able to ignore: issues of race/racism, left vs. right, etc.

    When Bush first ran for president I noticed that religion and faith became a part of his campaign strategy. Since that time it seems that to be considered a "real Christians" one must vote for the Republicans. I agree with another writer here that the so-called conservative party does not seem to be as in touch with Christian principles as they would like us to believe.

    I agree that keeping this country safe from terrorism is a paramount concern and that the life of the unborn should be protected. However, when I consider how self-serving the conservative party appears to be I must pause. Think of the millions of jobs that have been outsourced to other countries resulting in the lost of millions of jobs and the shut down of businesses and factories. Think about the fact that in this land of the brave, thousands of hard working Americans and their children are starving. One of the principle messages for the New Testament Church was to remember the widows and the poor. (See Galatians 2:10, Proverbs 31:9, Isaiah 10:1, 2). This does not seem to be the drive of the conservative party.

    Also, Mr. Strang you commented that Mr. Obama has ties to Islam through his father and step-father. This concerns me because I do not believe a person should be held accountable for their relatives' choice of religion. There are millions of Christians who have family members who have chosen to not walk with Christ. Whether you choose to support Obama or not is your perogative, but it seems wrong to base your decision, at least in part, on his father's religion.

    (With regard to the Jeremiah Wright issue: you forgot to mention that he very publicly resigned from that church.)

     
  • At June 13, 2008 2:25 PM , Blogger Denny Hartford said...

    Just a quick note to thank you for the excellent article. I have recommended it to visitors at Vital Signs Blog and hope it enlarges the readership of your timely and important piece. Again, good job!

    Denny Hartford
    Director, Vital Signs Ministries
    Omaha, Nebraska

     
  • At June 13, 2008 4:28 PM , Blogger Paul said...

    I am thankful that this beautiful country can grow and progress as the Christian Right fade under mounting national debts, outdated attitudes and untold deaths at the hands of your childish, un-christian policies. I am thankful that this beautiful country can grow once more.

    You had 8 years of absolute power. It's time for you to leave the stage. good riddance.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 4:35 PM , Blogger Artemesia said...

    How can you claim to follow Jesus and say you prefer Republicans because they will be better for BUSINESS.

    Jesus threw the money lenders from the temple.

    Jesus said it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.

    Jesus' message was one of love and charity, NOT one of making money off other people.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 4:36 PM , Blogger Barry said...

    As a pastor, I'm always disappointed in the way that the religious are sucked into the quicksand of politics. When you open your heart to empathy and love, these issues disappear.

    I'm dismayed to see churches sucked into the divisive agenda. Abortion and gay marriage are issues where good and honest people differ, when what we should be focused on is whether we are free to worship as we choose. The true test of our leaders should be in their support for the constitutional freedoms which give us the right to practice what we believe. When we vote our religion, we push things in the direction of theocracy and away from a place where each person can follow their heart.

    Someone upthread mentioned that Jesus had a temper. This is not true. There is a single event in the scripture where Jesus showed wrath, and it was at the money changers in the temple. Note that it was was not long after this event that he was arrested and crucified. Christ had a great deal of 'leftist' teachings that are ignored by many; many 'successful' pastors would have an easier time passing through the eye of the needle than entering the kingdom of heaven.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 4:46 PM , Blogger BryanRDC said...

    I am a liberal, a Jew, and a principled faithful person. I have plenty of concern about much of the "religious right" and its rhetoric, but firmly believe that people of good faith with open minds can work together and move mountains. Reverend Strang, you are blessed and impressive for going to the meeting, having an open mind, and assessing Senator Obama for his sincerity, his intellect, and his willingness to engage in challenging conversations, all *off* the record and therefore not prone to manipulation or done simply for the photo-op. I hope and pray that I can remember to use you as an example next time I am tempted to write off someone I think I will disagree with.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 5:06 PM , Blogger shalom said...

    Thanks Steve for your forthright comments. I do recognize your being a Republican loyalist. But I guess this time, we pray to Yahweh that Obama will win. Enough of Republican wars, esp unnecessary wars like Iraq when your President has to lie to his people about the real motive of the invasion.You have enough of Republicans leading you to the pit brother! Hey try this Democrat one - I guess he may lead America out of the pits and all that prestige that America has lost in the world and all that Mr Bush has dumped you into. By the way,from where I sit I don't think there will be many evangelical leaders who will be that enthusiastic about McCain! The way his advisers have been thrashing Christian leaders like Hagee and even rejecting an audience with Billy Graham - imagine rejecting Billy G - those advisers need to be guillotined. C'mon Steve! Tell your evangelical leader-friends, wake up to a new day! Your GOP heroes have been taking the evangelicals for a ride for ll these years - time to change or America will be in recession forever and not just economically but in int'l affairs and relations as well.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 5:15 PM , Blogger Regina said...

    Thanks a lot for your blog. You have reminded me why I continue to stand of the highest of moral principle by remaining an atheist.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 6:05 PM , Blogger Carl said...

    The Republican Party and the Religious Right (whatever that means) have some kind of misconception that moral behavoir gained through legislation is some kind of real victory. We all know that morality can never be gained through legislation - not even if God Himself writes the laws (remember something called the 10 commandemnts?).

    There are a lot of alarming parallels between todays Republican Party/Christian Conservatives and the Catholic Church/Crusaders of the 12th and 13th centuries. It's a wrongheaded approach. And I'll admit, it's kind of an unfair comparison. But it's just as unfair to always demonize the Democratic party as the party of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    By the way, Steven, maybe Senator Obama hugged the black preachers because he knew them from previous contacts. It's possible that he had never met any of the other people in the room, just as he had never met you.

    And it's an unfortunate shame how you drop the seeds of implied racism, paganism, and terrorism. I am surprised at your whole-throated willingness to tarnish and besmear another Christian whom you only met once.

    I wonder what your editorial comment would have been if you had had the opportunity to meet some genuine Christian radicals who defied the Christian conservative plumb-line of the times (like Martin Luther King, Fannie Lou Hammer and Harriet Tubman)?

    Finally, Steven, if you're telling me that you have all these reservations about John McCain, yet you're willing to set them aside and support him just because he's a republican, then you, sir, have lost any credibility with me because in my opinion, that's not a very deep logical or spiritual reason to choose one Christian candidate over another.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 6:47 PM , OpenID BrianLMack said...

    John McCain won't do it because the attendees will realize how insincere he is. You can't force a nation to believe a certain way just by supporting certain policies (i.e. overturning Roe v Wade). Obama has a sincere faith, McCain does not. The ONLY reason McCain says he's pro-life is to get votes. And abortion is certain not the only issue people of faith should be concerned with, not even the most important. I think it demonstrates the author's shallowness to suggest that it is.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 6:51 PM , OpenID BrianLMack said...

    paul said: Obama's voting record is the most extreme liberal in the senate.

    That is the most blatantly misleading comment. The senate is not a liberal body - nothing comes to a vote that is extremely liberal. Senators are elected by whole states. Even the most liberal states are not extreme. Heck, California has a Repulican gov. You cannot claim that a senator is extreme liberal based on his voting record. If you think you can, then please, list the extremely liberal bills that he voted for.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 7:03 PM , Blogger Hokuto said...

    Chuck Staab wrote: "Does anyone think that Obama reminds them of the anti-christ? I am a well educated Christian physician who is worried about the direction of this country. Obama is a smooth talker and seems to always say what his audience wants to hear. He reminds me of the "Father of Liars"."



    I'm also worried about the direction of our country when ostensibly well-educated physicians can talk glibly about the "father of lies" without referencing the current president and his Machiavellian Rove. II Corinthians says that Satan himself appears as an "angel of light"; if so, that helps explain why so many conservative Christians have been taken in by the "compassionate conservative" agenda of the past eight years, with their promise of "faith-based" initiatives. Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world" -- "this world" includes America, according to my geography. And it's right to desire, as Hebrews 11:16 says "a better country," but as Hebrews goes on to specify, that country is not of this earth; it is "a heavenly one." Christians are to be sojourners in this world, not attached to it to the degree they think they have to transform it into a counterfeit god's kingdom.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 8:16 PM , Blogger Cal said...

    I don’t know who you should vote for. I don’t know who I should vote for either.

    I used to know, but that was before I was redeemed through Christ’s love and sacrifice. Unencumbered by God’s Grace, my political choices were once quite simple. I had a political party and I supported all of its candidates. Towards those who opposed my party’s candidates I felt mostly hostility and contempt.

    I haven’t been a Christian for very long, so I can’t profess to much theological insight. But I do know that hostility and contempt is something I must now purge in the face of my newfound alliance with Jesus.

    There are only two candidates. I know that neither can fully represent my beliefs. No matter who I chose I will be making a compromise. I can live with that. But what I must guard against is returning to my former self even a little and letting who I vote for compromise what I believe.

    Talking and praying with the candidates is a good thing. Maybe there are some who disagree with assertion. But at the very least, talking and praying has got to be better than hostility and contempt.

     
  • At June 13, 2008 8:32 PM , Blogger Jeff V said...

    why in the world would you consider not attending this event?? what citizen of this country would not want to have a chance to meet a presidential candidate?? is your first love, love of country, OR...???

     
  • At June 13, 2008 9:01 PM , Blogger Great Grany 5 said...

    I have many Born Again Christian friends who are really struggling with the upcoming elections this fall. Some, who are consistent voters and feel a responsibility to that freedom we should all cherish, are not going to cast a vote for either Mr. McCain or Mr. Obama. I don't agree with that but it is their decision. I also have great problems with both candidates but I am seeking God's inspiration to know the right man to vote for. I feel like I did when the national elections gave me the choice of Richard Nixon and George McGovern. I stayed home and never regretted it. History proved that neither one of those men were fit for the high office of President of These United States.

    Now we come to the Obama dilemma and if I could cast my vote for the sweetest smile, the orator, the charisma graced candidate, it would be so simple. But you see, I am old enough now to know that that smile won't keep America safe or strong in the eyes of the terrorist; the great speaker will only be shouting into the wind if we aren't behind him 100% and his words are not truth; the charisma can be of this world the same just as the Anointing is of God Only; and Change can involve many ideologies that are sure to strip us of our freedoms. Change happened in Russia with the Bolsheviks and Communism became their mantra. Change can be the antithesis of freedom but I would hope not.

    There has to be a change in this country but it has to be a Godly change or else it will only lead to the same old same old. I saw a change in government when Harry Truman ascended to the presidency after Franklin Roosevelt died suddenly. There was a whole lot of complaining and fault finding going on when little old Harry took office after the death of a beloved Charismatic president and the news media had a ball making fun of him. But you know what? God had his hand on Harry and Harry cast the vote that recognized Israel becoming a nation again. So, history records this plain little Haberdasher from Independence, Missouri as the deciding vote in the UN for Israel to fulfill the prophecy of the Regathering and rebuilding of God's Chosen People.

    I have to pray that God will lead me to know his Will in this time and for this season; that the times are not just about the USA but all nations existing to bring about the Glory of God's Son. I might not like all that I hear nor enjoy all that I feel, but I will be submitted to serve God to the fullest, even with my vote.

    Shalom

     
  • At June 13, 2008 11:03 PM , Blogger Robert said...

    What a poorly written account of your encounter - not a single shred of substance about Sen. Obama's answer to your question on abortion. I've read the Audacity of Hope, and he couldn't possibly have said 'the same thing as in the book' because he said very little in the book about abortion. He clearly said more to you in 15 minutes than you cared to write.

    Why can't Christians just get over the fact that it it NOT the place of the government to impose YOUR religious beliefs on the entire population with regards to gay marriage? I am a Christian and I realize it is not the duty of our government to institute any religion's fetishes. If our government approves gay marriage, fine. You don't have to embrace it.

    But don't try to make our government an extension of your right wing theological positions. It's not your place. Get over it--you're not Conservative, you're absolutist, you're fundamentalist, and I will fight with every fiber of my being your efforts to institute your oppressive and dangerous religious views into becoming law.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 12:09 AM , Blogger Thomas said...

    To the person who called Obama a smooth-talking liar who tells people what they want to hear, consider this: Obama obviously didn't tell Mr. Strang what he would have liked to hear about abortion. In all likelihood he was also asked about homosexuality and did not tell Mr. Strang and the other conservatives in the room what they would have liked to hear about that.

    But please, keep talking about how you think Obama is the antichrist, or he reminds you of Hitler or whatever. Really good for your credibility.

    Seriously though, it is nice to see a thread full of conservative Christians talking about Obama without someone claiming he is a Muslim. I've enjoyed reading the way most of you write with civility and care.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 1:16 AM , OpenID juliekay44 said...

    One of the earlier posters is correct that legislating morality does not work. I can remember back alley abortions where lower income women sometimes bleed to death, while people with money received safe abortions.

    As others have said, I cannot understand the narrow focus on abortion and gay marriage over taking care of the poor and needy. John McCain's tax plan is a continuation of the Republican agenda of business over individual's needs.

    President Bush has the blood of over 4,000 US military and approximately 500,000 Iraq civilians. What would Jesus have done about deciding to attack Iraq?

    The United Methodist Church sent George W Bush letters before the war in Iraq telling him not to start the war. While Bush was claiming that God told him to start the war. The church has continued to send him letters, telling him to get out of Iraq, United Methodist do not torture people, and do not cut funding for programs that help the less fortunate.

    Iraq War 'Unjustifiable', says Bush's Church Headt Oct, 2002 (Also Dick Cheney's church)
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1020-02.htm
    President George Bush's own Methodist church has launched a scathing attack on his preparations for war against Iraq, saying they are 'without any justification according to the teachings of Christ'.

    Our country is in a financial crisis, why are "Evangelicals" continuing to ignore the damage done by the Republicans, which are policies McCain intends to continue? Making abortion and gay relationships illegal will not prevent either.

    Former Senator, Phil Gramm, Texas (oil companies) McCain's primacy financial advisor was a major contributor to the current financial crisis.

    Gasoline Prices
    "In the long term, gasoline prices will soon continue their rapid rise, because those prices have little relationship to supply/demand factors (and) are being manipulated upward by energy traders," he said.
    http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=ecb962b7-7837-42f8-ad2c-f201d1a0f6bd

    Foreclosure Phil
    Years before Phil Gramm was a McCain campaign adviser and a lobbyist for a Swiss bank at the center of the housing credit crisis, he pulled a sly maneuver in the Senate that helped create today's subprime meltdown."
    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/29/9274

    Phil Gramm, Bill Clinton, and the Sub-Prime Financial Mess
    Listen to Michael Greenberger on NPR’s Fresh Air http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89338743

    How McCain's Top Economic Adviser Helped Create Subprime Meltdown
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/how-mccains-economic-advi_n_104054.html

    Bear Stearns, Housing Subprime, Enron, Gas Prices - Former Senator Phil Gramm
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/business/23how.html?pagewanted=print

     
  • At June 14, 2008 6:48 AM , Blogger Nancy said...

    I am a committed Christian. I'm disturbed that you write about Barack Obama's "ties" to Islam.

    A basic Christian belief is that we make faith commitments as individuals. We are not defined as a people by genetics and ancestry, but by belief and baptism.

    Obama's a Christian. I know you don't agree with his church's theology, but it's still quite obviously a Christian community and he's a baptized member.

    I am a moderate-to-liberal voter and I try every day to remember that more conservative politicians are my brothers and sisters in Christ. Please do the same.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 7:33 AM , Blogger Becky said...

    "And, on the moral issues such as the sanctity of marriage, it’s absolutely scary to think of what will happen if same sex marriage is allowed in this nation."

    What, exactly, will happen? If two men or two women get married in California, how will that affect my happy hetero marriage out here in Ohio? Why is gay marriage so scary? (Any answers using the word "icky" are invalid.)

     
  • At June 14, 2008 10:48 AM , Blogger Cepjr said...

    Too many "conservative Christians" who seem to blindly throw their lot in with the Republican party seem to forget the fact that America is a democracy, not a theocracy.

    Even though homosexuality and abortion are implicitly against God's law, in a democratic form of government the majority rules. If the majority of people out there want abortions and gay marriage - then that's exactly what we'll see in this country.

    I was the director for the prayer ministry at a church that was affiliated with Rhema (Kenneth Hagin). We had around 800 people in attendance on Sunday. We had a once-a-month prayer service in which the entire church was to come together just to pray. During the year that I was over this service, we never had more than 15 people in attendance at the monthly prayer service.

    If you don't want to see gay marriage, abortion, or any other blatant ungodly practice passed into law in this country, then get on your knees and then get into the streets and get the gays and the pro-choice people saved.

    Stop depending on government to do our work for us. And Christians, please stop falling in lock-step to the rhythm of the Republican party. Look at their record - they are no worse or no better than the Democratic party. Stop drinking the RNC kool-aid. Open your eyes and see what's in front of you.

    And stop smearing and dividing the church even more than it is over something as stupid as partisan politics.

    Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars, and unto God the things that are Gods.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 11:00 AM , OpenID Stephen said...

    I think the label "pro-life" is misleading. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are truly pro-life — and I suspect you aren't, either.

    Pro-life surely doesn't just connote an opposition to abortion. It must also comprise anti-war, anti-torture, active efforts to ameliorate poverty, reduce the incidence of HIV/AIDS, effect justice for blacks and other disenfranchised social groups, etc.

    You say you oppose Obama's candidacy because you're pro-life. You could justifiably oppose either candidate on that ground. But Obama is arguably more pro-life than McCain, and therefore more worthy of the support of a Christian like yourself.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 5:36 PM , Blogger JR said...

    Thanks for your report. I think what's refreshing about Sen. Obama is his candidness and his willingness to take the time to hear and respect points of view that are different from his. I get the sense that he is someone with a well defined worldview, but who is always learing, reassessing and growing. I'm delighted to support him.

    I grew up Christian and went to catholic schools. I'm sympathetic to the pro-life position but find it one of many issues that are critical to the future of the nation--issues like global warming, morality in foreign affairs and detainee treatment, civil rights, poverty, etc. I have to ask an imprudent question -- you say it's scary to think what will happen if same sex marriage is legal. Sir, what exactly do you think will happen? It is already legal in Massachusetts and now California. I respect your opposition, but I encourage you to consider the way you think and talk about this issue. What will happen? And is it really as bad a you think for society?

     
  • At June 14, 2008 6:29 PM , Blogger Keith Murray said...

    There is no way that anyone that is true believer and disciple of Jesus Christ can support a candidate who supports the abominations of abortion and gay rights. Those who are involved in those activities need to be loved and prayed for, but to support someone who would pass and enforce laws to perpetrate those heinous acts would go against all that the Word of God says and stands for. You can't serve both God and those that fight against God's clear principles and precepts.

     
  • At June 14, 2008 8:08 PM , Blogger Marlon said...

    Mr. Strang, you said:

    But I was curious what the junior Senator from Illinois would say to Christian leaders when it’s well known that he supports abortion and the gay rights agenda. In addition, he has ties to Islam as a child through both his father and stepfather. The denomination he has attended as an adult is the most liberal Protestant denomination. The church in Chicago that Sen. Obama and his family attended, Rev. Jeremiah Wright was its pastor. It’s well known that Rev. Wright believes in Liberation Theology. He has also accused the government of spreading the AIDS virus among blacks and famously preached the Sunday after September 11, 2001, that God should “damn America” rather than bless it for all the so-called evils he thinks America is guilty of.

    What could he have in common with “conservative” Christian leaders?
    ----

    My question is, what makes you think you're a Christian leader?

    I do think racialized lenses is one way to view this demonization of Obama.

    1) Obama has Muslim family members. Put another way, he has sinners he is related to -- don't you? Why are Muslim sinners any worse than WASP sinners?

    2) Liberation theology ... everyone wants to demonize this word liberation theology. I know you know the names of folks like George McKinney and Ithiel Clemmons ... you might have even heard of the late O.T. Jones Jr or Arthur Brazier. All of them would be knowledgeable of "liberation theology" and none of them would consider it a dirty of sinful term.

    3) If Jerry Falwell and the religious right could ask God to damn America over and over again, while is it so bad when it's coming out of the mouth of a radical black Christian pastor's mouth?

    4) How liberal is the UCC, really? I mean is Rick Warren -- who met with leaders of axis of evil in North Korea and Syria -- and who has made his primary moral issue the HIV/AIDS pandemic -- is Rick Warren representative of the Southern Baptist Convention? Is Mike Huckabee, who did not get glowing endorsements from most of the religious right establishment -- is he representative of the SBC? It's so easy to make generalizations. There is a gay bishop in the Episcopal Church and all of them are not cut from the same cloth theologically. Equally true, all Spirit-filled Christians do not interpret the Bible and evaluate their political issues in the same way.

    I won't waste any time trying to argue against your position or for mine.

    I actually hope you continue down this road you're on though. I think it will really serve as a wake-up call to so many readers who blindly read your publications.

    I was waiting for the Obama is the anti-christ comment to your blog and I saw it. I find those to be the height of stupidity.

    Given how white fundamentalist Christians think they are God's elect -- there is no way that that the anti-christ would be a black liberal with Muslim roots (with doggone "Hussein" as a middle name) who is rabidly pro-abortion and pro-gay. That's too obvious.

    It is more likely to be a good old boy from Texas (really high falutin Connecticut, but he picked up the accent really well) ... who says God delivered him from alcohol (though God didn't deliver his wife from cigarettes) and he wants to kill the evildoers -- just not the corporate raiders -- their angels from heaven.

    Hah, hah. It would have to be a black man that would be the anti-christ for God's elect -- the white fundamentalists (and I know there are some black folks thrown in their too).

    Peace.

     
  • At June 15, 2008 3:06 PM , Blogger ekwo said...

    Mr Strang, please reciprocate Senator Obama's good gesture in inviting you to Chicago by doing the same- invite Senator for a full interview with Charisma Magazine. It will not mean an endorsement. It will mean that you are willing to let we your readers in on what you heard in your "off-the-record" meeting with him in Chicago. It is good for you to this interview not only as a professional journalist but most importantly as a believer who is willing to give everyone-including those we disagree with, a fair hearing.

    I really hope you will. God bless you as you do.

     
  • At June 15, 2008 3:19 PM , Blogger Venetia said...

    It is no surprise that Obama held the meeting. He is simply doing what any serious candidate will do who wants to win an election..attemping to get as many votes as possible to win. What does surprise and continually puzzles me is why anyone who says they are born again Christians who love Jesus would ever consider voting for someone who has made it very clear he stands for death and destruction of those who are the most vunerable among us. The unborn. Jesus came to bring "life more abundantly" but Obama's agenda includes not only abortion on demand but destruction to families as he strongly supports same sex marriages. My heart is very heavy as we approach these upcoming elections. For the first time that I can remember I am strongly considering not voting at all. It seems my choices are to vote for Senator McCain who has choosen to distance himself from anyone who stands for traditional family and biblical christian values or to vote for Senator Obama who's agenda is so violently opposed to my own. This leaves me with feeling I have no choices at all. One thing I am strongly convinced of is that we all must appeal for the the grace and mercy
    of Christ in these upcoming days. May we all get serious about being on our knees in intecession for this nation as we go forth.

     
  • At June 16, 2008 8:39 AM , Blogger dewanda said...

    This is the time that as sons of God we need to pray and receive the correct answer from God. We can't afford to lean to our own understanding. God has the answer so let's stop trying to figure it out on our own and get the answer from God who knows all and sees all. Revelation is what we need. What sounds good and looks good might not be good. What sounds bad and looks bad might not be bad. In order for us to receive truth we must go to the one who holds the truth. Through fasting and prayer we might receive that answer. We are in our last days so we can't afford to assume or lean to our own understanding.

     
  • At June 16, 2008 9:16 AM , OpenID kryptnt171 said...

    To whomever wrote this "Why wasn't the answer to the question of "Is Christ the way or just a way" given. There is only one reponse to be called a Christian."

    Chuck Colson did ask this (according to what I have read)...however, as this was off-record, we do not have his answer. But anyone who understands Obama knows how he answered.

    Obama is a empty suit, actually the most liberal in the Senate (more than Ted Kennedy) with a 97% liberal voting record...he tows the Democratic line. The liberal policies are very destructive and similiar to communist/socialist ideals (which history teaches how that has happened.)

    It is ignorant to assume the right does not care about education, healthcare, or any of the other issues. The concern is taking the power out of the hands of those who can do something about it. Mike Huckabee was and still is the best example of a Christian in politics....unwavering in the faith, open and honest. Obama is trying (and thanks to the feeling of the youth movement, he is succeeding).

    How a Christian can justify voting for someone (Obama) who voted to permit "live-birth abortion" while on the state legislature in IL is absolutely mindboggling to me. For those who don't know, live-birth abotion is where the child is born and then taken to another room and allowed to die alone (in most cases). A Christian nurse was the whistleblower who brought this practice to national light...this nurse found this practice while working at "Christ Hospital" in Chicago.

    Anyone who really wants a street-level understanding of Christianity, ride with the police, talk to the social workers, don't just sit back on your armchairs or in your isolated ministries thinking you're doing great good. Cops understand the way the world works, and so do those who are on the street, interacting with the "least of these" everyday.

    Common sense must win out over idealistic, naive views.

     
  • At June 16, 2008 1:17 PM , Blogger Brian said...

    WH is it hard for you evangelicals to understand that far from not supporting life, we pro-choice folks see no compelling argument that life begins at conception. A thing without a brain is not alive in a meaningful way and imbuing special significance to the moment of conception is pure metaphysics. You are free to believe in airy theories about souls, but such unsupported beliefs are not actionable in a secular society. If conception is so crucial, will you contend that a clone will not be alive because it has no soul, having had no conception? Do twins share a soul? Respect for life has to do with suffering and pain, not potentialities. The idea that life begins at conception disregards the medical fact that WE are our brains, nothing more. We wouldn't want a Muslim to legislate based on the beliefs they hold ONLY by way of an ancient revelation (that is, a belief that couldnt' be supportable without it) so why do Christians think they have this right? You can't possibly think an aborted zygote is exactly the same as killing a post-natal person? If you do, I can only ascribe it to cowardice that you aren't out killing abortion doctors.

     
  • At June 16, 2008 1:48 PM , Blogger RightwingSparkle said...

    I do grow tired of those who think that abortion occurs before 6 weeks. It does not. Abortion clinics do not perform abortions before 6 weeks because they may actually "miss" the embryo. I saw my daughter's heartbeat on a sonogram at 6weeks. So the idea that it isn't a person is absurd.

    Now, to the point of Obama's "thoughtful" answer on the abortion issue and the idea that he is a "centrist' there. That is equally absurd. Of course he wants to sound reasonable because he wants to win your vote. But his past speaks to his heart. He was co-sponser on the Freedom of Choice Act. He is against the partial birth abortion BAN and he voted against the Baby born alive Act in the state senate. He is as radical on abortion as anyone who has ever run for President.

    Please do not let yourselfs be fooled by pretty talk.He sees no value in unborn life. None. And that tells me all that I need to know about him. When the right to life is denied, then all other rights are moot.

     
  • At June 16, 2008 3:22 PM , Blogger Jon Rising said...

    It is my conviction that unique DNA --- which is present at conception --- constitutes human life.

     
  • At June 17, 2008 11:39 AM , Blogger Ernie said...

    How can you even think of Obama or McCain, it tells me that you.ve not done any serious research on either of them....The only candidates that are worthy of our vote based on all the issues are either Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin....We will never get our country back if these others are voted in...Our rights have been taken away from us systematically over the years by outright lies and deception and the majority still think they are living in a free country...What a joke!

    I have just returned from an extensive trip abroad...even in Germany they have more rights than we do and the government isn't locking up the majority of it's people like we are...You have less rights than even a third world country like Costa Rica where you can say what you want and not be jailed for it...don't think you have that right here...you really have no clue!

    The list of lost rights is almost endless compared to a large majority of the places I visited! Including the stupidity of all this security checks at airports...I have travelled freely through over 9 countries and once I arrived I picked up my luggage and walked out of the airport with no checkpoints!

    I love my country but I fear this ungodly government we have in office! Besides when was the last time you heard ANY of the press or TV stations or candidates say anything about our REPUBLIC....WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY. We have listened to the lies for so long we can't even discern one when it's in our face!

    Well I know that God is ultimately in control but that doesn't excuse our lack of discernment either!

    Ernie Porier

     
  • At June 18, 2008 8:18 PM , Blogger Joel and Kathy said...

    I am absolutely disgusted that some who would claim to be believers, would even consider coming alongside Obama- a man who is for all types of abortion and is pro-homosexual marriage etc.

    There is no way, under heaven, that a person can legitimately claim to be a believer, and support Obama. It is unspeakable to think that someone would claim to be a believer, and yet they would say that a stance against abortion is "political."

    I also care for people who are broke, care about education, care about everything that one person who posted here said that a believer "should" care about.

    To say that someone does not care for other important issues just because they want to protect unborn children is unthinking, political pablum.

    And yes, I am also disheartened that the republican candidate has no morals as far as being a husband and father. That is horrendous - leaving his wife for another woman.

    However, he is the only person we can vote for if we claim to be a Christian. A Christian cannot, in any mannner, vote for a man who wants to continue the holocaust of abortion and wants to implement homosexual marriage.

    That is not debatable. That is just a fact. On another front, it is so sad to hear that TD Jakes has come out in support of Obama. I thought that Jakes was a follower of Jesus. He sings a good song when he is preaching. So sad to hear that his heart is in support of murdering unborn children.

    By the way, if you know someone who needs help in their marriage, send them to our website - www.GodSaveMyMarriage.com

    What would I say to McCain? Divorce this wife and be reunited with your wife and mother of your children. Repent. I just wish to God that McCain was not the republican "choice." Can't do anything about that. Not voting for the republican "suit" is voting in default for abortion and homosexual marriage - and as believers, we simply cannot do that.

    Joel Davisson
    www.GodSaveMyMarriage.com

     
  • At June 19, 2008 1:20 AM , Blogger Praus said...

    Thank you so much for all you have written. I am one of the people that have always been concerned about Christians who use the Bible as a cover up to support their political party.

    The way you tried to link Obama to Islam, was scary, and it deeply expresses the dangers that many republicans are known for. They will use anything to win. Please note that I am not a democrat either.
    It surprises me that in spite of the fact that Obama is a genuine born-again Christian simply because he is not a republican, it never counted. When Bush who is a republican was contesting you were doing everything to push the idea that he is a Christian who is born again and that people should vote for him.

    Coming to John McCain, the fact that he once divorced his wife, should he be under condemnation forever. As a matter of fact, it looks very obvious that McCain is not a born again Christian, and that is why it is difficult for him to about his faith. He cannot talk about what he does not know period.
    As a publisher of a Christian magazine, I think this kind of judgmental and self-righteous spirit can easily pervade Charisma, and get transferred to a whole lot of Christians. If someone who is probably not born-again divorces, when will you be able to recognize that this is just another sinner who needs a savior, and why the severe judgment and extra burden that cannot be carried that is being loaded on him? Are you saying that even you that are save is so perfect that you do not have any mistake and so you cannot even reason that someone who is probably not saved (born-again) might not be able to push back such influence of the world like divorce.

    Now back to your issue on abortion, you made this so much of an issue and you waved social justice aside as if they are not both evils the Bible preaches against. That is the problem I have with Christians who keep promoting their party in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I wonder if such people really have the fear of God in their heart or whether they are honest at all.

    Please can you tell me what difference is there if a child is not aborted, but made to live to face all the social injustice and inequality that exists in the American society? They end up being criminals, do worse things and they are eventually sent to hell by the government by killing them for gross offence or kept in prison forever or they themselves become a terror to the society sending innocent people to hell by killing in the society. So, though they were not aborted but all that God meant for them has been taken away from them before they were even born because of social injustice.
    This is not to say that I support abortion in any way. But this is just to say that the point you bring about abortion holds no sway. Dealing with social injustice is just as important as fighting abortion.

    Instead of Christians hiding under the Bible to proclaim their political party, it is time for the Church to come out together as a united body and fight one of the greatest evils that is destroying the fabric of the American society – that is racism.
    Christians are so complacent about this evil, they shout about abortion and ignore other evil as they continue their selective war on evil. This is nothing but politics in operation

    Talking about liberalism, I guess Jesus would have been called a liberal by your standard. He supported the poor, gave to the needy, he did not have a place to put his head; he paid his taxes because it was important to make the society run. Not only that he mingled freely with the common people, He drank and ate with sinners (He was not self-righteous like your article is suggesting).

    It is time to do away with judgmental Christianity and begin to ask God to truly help us remove the logs in our own eyes before we can see the specks in other people’s eyes.
    We as Christians are in this world and it seems like many has to take side with a political party of his/her conviction when voting. However, using the name of the Lord to endorse or proclaim support for a party could be misleading and driving people far away from God than fulfilling the great commission we have been sent to accomplish. The field is white and ready for harvest, lest not use politics to put a hedge between others who are truly seeking the truth.


    Talking about journalism with conscience I think we can learn from the man who wrote on the faith of George Bush and that of Obama. I think he wrote more out of the fear of God, and would not call another child of God a liberal simply because they are not in the same political party.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 4:53 AM , Blogger Ben Vos said...

    Well, Steve, I fundamentally disagree with your claim (unproven, by the way) that Obama's approach would be bad for national security. You are permitted to believe whatever you want to believe, but I think you're wrong. Destabilizing Iraq and emboldening Iran, the Bush/McCain foreign policy has totally lacked in serious diplomatic efforts. We serve the Prince of Peace, and Christ calls us to turn the other cheek and be peacemakers. So how can you call yourself a Christian when you support a regime that has falsely imprisoned men in Guantanamo, tortured at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, and killed thousands of innocent Iraqi people? How do you support a president who infringes on religious liberty by advocating for policies that neglect or reject Muslims and Jews? I'm an Evangelical Christian, and I believe that the first amendment goes both ways - Congress shouldn't make laws purely on the basis of religious truth claims.

    And so, having read Audacity of Hope, I actually agree with Obama. This is a Constitutional law matter, not a religious test. And all of us agree that there is a moral dimension to abortion, and Barack Obama is one of the few politicians out there who is actually discussing strategies to prevent abortion (other than abstinence education, which has failed over and over and over again). So, Steve, as your brother in Christ, I rebuke and reprove you, and call you to stop the modern-day Phariseeism that destroys the body of Christ and our witness to the world.

    May God's peace rule in your heart.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 7:02 AM , OpenID h2d24dmb said...

    Let's talk about Barack Obama first:

    I love that he hosted a real meeting encompassing many viewpoints, not for political gain, but for gaining wisdom and understanding. That thinking is consistent with his character and his past actions.

    He will be a great leader and president precisely because he is very intelligent and is willing to listen to multiple views, even those dissenting. He displays great character and integrates his values with his life and his politics. I'd rather have my president walk the walk rather than just saying the "righteous" words to tickle our ears, without actually making progress toward Kingdom goals, as has been the case in the last 3 decades.

    People of all denominations and all faiths should be enlisted in the political process - the country belongs to all of us, and 50% + 1 doesn't cut it for true governance.

    It's time to drop the "Liberal" and "Conservative" perjoratives in favor of "brother's keeper" and "do unto others" thinking.

    I hope and pray you and the many who have been so passionately involved in the partisanship that has been the Republican/ Conservative Christian alliance can break free of the type of prejudices and tired, failed political discourse demonstrated in the tone and style of this article and re-examine what government can be and what Jesus would have us do. The country needs all of us.

    Thank you for attending and for your reflections.

    Shalom -- the Peace of God to you.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 7:21 AM , Blogger Alan said...

    "I am absolutely disgusted that some who would claim to be believers, would even consider coming alongside Obama- a man who is for all types of abortion and is pro-homosexual marriage etc.

    There is no way, under heaven, that a person can legitimately claim to be a believer, and support Obama."

    This is exactly the type of polemic which does Christianity such a dis-service. You have strong views on one side - many sincere true Christians disagree with you.

    Who are you to choose two issues and decide that these are the only ones God cares about?

    I pray you will repent of your un-Christian attitude and recognize that believers can, and do, differ over these issues.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 9:31 AM , Blogger Princess King International said...

    I think John McCain is a mystery...I see someone who is cavelier in his faith and leadership so therefore i would not trust him with running this country. You mentioned nothing regarding the war he supports that is dragging this country into complete shame and weakness around the world. John McCain intends to continue the drag and for that I simply cannot and will not support him. I am supporting a candidate that I feel knows the importance of American values and Christian values. Abortion is wrong yes, but so is being gay if you want to please the father. I agree with Senator Obama regarding abortion being a personal choice. You can not legislate personal choice people will continue to abort their babies and they will continue to live in gay unions and adulterous unions. What you do with your morals are between you and God if you care. Obama says he is a Christian and you are dead wrong to imply that he has muslim/terrorist leanings because of his father and step-father. You are in fact spreading fear amongst mostly fearful white people... and last I check God has not given us the spirit of fear....so who are you really? my brother in Christ.....hmmmmm???

    Seems to me the wheat and the tares are being revealed and separated...and for that I praise God!

     
  • At June 19, 2008 10:05 AM , Blogger Tasiyagnunpa said...

    I think it was very fair and consistent with Obama's values to hold this meeting. I am glad church leaders took the time to listen. This gives me hope for the Christian church as a whole. The time has come for us in the Church to stop dividing ourselves across partisan lines. Of course, as citizens we should also fulfill our duty to our country, as Paul directed us in the Holy Spirit, but this continued alienation the Relgious Right has put the rest of through is ungodly and unwholesome. Be divisive for Christ's sake, not for the sake of a political party. All in all, I think Mr. Strang did a fair job of giving his opinion on the matter, though a staunch conservative. Thank you. Though, I disagree that it is anywhere near fair to keep trying to connect Sen. Obama with Islam. I will gladly vote for Barack Obama to be our next president.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 10:12 AM , Blogger Tasiyagnunpa said...

    Nancy said...
    I am a committed Christian. I'm disturbed that you write about Barack Obama's "ties" to Islam.

    A basic Christian belief is that we make faith commitments as individuals. We are not defined as a people by genetics and ancestry, but by belief and baptism.

    Obama's a Christian. I know you don't agree with his church's theology, but it's still quite obviously a Christian community and he's a baptized member.

    I am a moderate-to-liberal voter and I try every day to remember that more conservative politicians are my brothers and sisters in Christ. Please do the same.

    June 14, 2008 6:48 AM


    AMEN.

     
  • At June 19, 2008 5:37 PM , Blogger Kay said...

    I completely disagree with you, Steve, but I appreciate your willingness to go, to openly reveal your personal biases, and the tone with which you wrote. You wrote as fairly about Obama as I could write about McCain.

    Yet, I don't understand why my fellow Charismatic-evangelical Christians insist on deifying the Republican Party. As believers, we should be above Party affiliation, challenging Democrats and Republicans to pro-life values that include life in the womb and outside of the womb.

    Why do we continue to give the Republicans a pass just because they occasionally throw us a bone with some poorly conceived regulation of abortion that they know will never be passed? When do we start requiring them to earn our support? To offer something real? I think it is incredibly interesting that abortions declined during in the Clinton years, but started to climb again during the Bush years. For that we are going to reward the Republicans with another shot!!!??!!!

    What if we quit focusing on the legality of abortion and just tried to end it? What if we focused on the issues that lead to abortion -- poverty, teen pregnancies, and lack of alternatives either before or after pregnancy? Maybe being pro-life means more than just being anti-abortion.

     
  • At June 20, 2008 10:35 PM , Blogger Forum said...

    I am a Christian. I believe in the importance of repentance and it is for this reason I could not in any way support your so called Christian Right views. The majority of the political synergy of the right comes from a racist assent to leave the Democratic Party when it pushed a voting rights bill. The old Dixiecrats were led by Pat Robertson's father. Members of the Christian right today stand on the shoulders of a racist foundation that is counter to the American Idea. How could you support McCain and not question his closeness with Phil Graham and his wife, and the Enron connection? The current gas hike is more about speculative hedge funds that any market driven oil pricing from OPEC. You support the very enemies of Freedom and want to stand on one or two issues but will kill any one who is in opposition. You all need to repent. I am praying for you for you obviously know little of Jesus.

     
  • At June 21, 2008 2:00 PM , Blogger Lee Diamond said...

    Thank you for your report on the meeting. One of the main reasons I support Barack Obama is his effort to reach out. I do agree with him on most issues, but his dedication to being a different kind of leader, one who genuinely listens and genuinely wants to bring the country together as much as possible is what makes him special.

    I certainly believe that one can stand up for their values and beliefs while also seeking some measure of consensus and bipartisanship. It seems obvious that we need that in our foreign policy.

     
  • At June 21, 2008 9:09 PM , Blogger NB said...

    As an Christian first, a man second, and African American third, I cannot help but to think that the unmentionable reality of Mr. Strang's oppinion and others like him is rooted in falsity to veil a bigotry that extends deeply but subtlely in the fact that it is incomprehensible that an African American "could" assume the most powerful position in the world. Power in this country has always been assumed to be in the hands of a particular group of people. To relinquish that power would somehow be corrupt. The issues of abortion and same-sex marriage or homosexuality, should have been attacked and extinguished beyond the ability of government over 40 years ago (when Obama was 7). The church sat on its hands during the crucial years of our social shaping and we still don't understand that the responsibility is ours before it is theirs. Shalom

     
  • At June 23, 2008 5:57 PM , Blogger msjaneb♥♥♫♫♥♥♫♫ said...

    I am seriously praying about who God wants us to put into office. God appoints kings, and we are to pray for those in office. I disagree with your comments,"But, we’re not electing the person we think is the most righteous," for I do want to elect the person who is the most righteous. I want our President to hear from God in all matters. Which nominee will really stand up for our Christian rights in office? One who is denying he has a relationship with Christian leaders, or one who is reaching out to them and asking for their ideas? One who publicly states he is a Christian who prays daily or one who hasn't stated what he is for fear of alienating those who don't believe in Jesus? I am looking forward to Stephen Mansfield's book on the Faith of Obama, due out in July, to help me figure this out. We must consider the widows and the orphans, and how the election will affect them.
    Jane-Des Moines

     
  • At June 24, 2008 12:28 PM , Blogger Wilderness Waters Fellowship said...

    That's America For You
    Isaiah 34:1,2,8 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.

    For the indignation of the Lord is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.

    For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompenses for the controversy of Zion.

    Isaiah 40:15-17 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

    And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.

    All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

    Would somebody please help me? I keep hearing that America is a "Christian nation" and that we are "one nation under God." (When I speak of America, this includes Canada - North America). We are also told that we need to return to our former foundations of Christian Truth and Morale. Well, I would like someone to show me somewhere from the annals of history that this country was founded on Christian principles.

    I think what we need to do is take a genuine and honest look down memory-lane through the clear lens of true Christian discernment.

    A certain person who shared in the production of the T.V. mini-series "Into the West" made a very simple, yet conclusive statement on the commentary of this movie. He said, "The death of the wild, the death of spirituality, and the birth of commerce and industry is what made America what it is today." That pretty much accurately sums it up. Biblically, we could say that America was founded on the "love of money" and "free enterprise".

    Let's also look at the notion that America was founded upon the premise of "freedom of religion" and "freedom to worship God." Well first of all, two nationalities of people - basically two races of people, were either slaughtered or enslaved to accommodate the various white races dominating the country.

    "Freedom of religion"?! What about these people having the right to live for and worship God in their own way? The natives and the colored folk both worshiped "the creator" in their own ways. Many of the Negro people from Africa were true Christians and thank God they were. Their spiritual resilience enabled them to endure the many atrocities of the various white caucasian slave owners.

    When we really get to the root of the "American Way" we don't see so much of a "freedom of religion" as we do a "freedom to dominate", and an aggressive forcing of the white man's financial and political way of life upon others.

    You see, as long as there was just one small tribe of natives living off the land, and off of what God had created - there was living evidence that the white mans' way wasn't the only way. And of course, the white man couldn't tolerate that, so in the name of "religion" and "civilization" he aggressively sought to bring all other people under the rule of his financial and political structure.

    Personally, I find it amazing how that the natives had a whole way of life, without money - no money system! And it is the money-system of this world which is going to fail! It will only be those who take the mark of the beast that can buy or sell in these last days. (Rev. 13:17)

    Furthermoere, isn't it ironic that the very things that the Governments are scrambling about now...with all the "enviromental concerns", wouldn't be happening if the Native way of life would have been adopted instead of the white mans. And even though it may have been inevitable that all this happened, still, let it be clearly understood that God's Judgment will be based upon the fact that these injustices were committed "in the name of God", and were infact a total misrepresentation of Christianity.

    Who's to say you can't be a Christian and live in a Tee-Pee, living off the land, hunting Buffalo and eating with your fingers?! The only problem...is that there is no money in it for the white man!

    So you see, it wasn't a pure and honest "love for God and Christianity" which drove the hearts of the eastern settlers. At the root of this hostile take-over were the seeds of "doing whatever seemeth right in our own eyes" (Prov. 3:7 and 14:12). Freedom to do whatever one wants, with the "love of money" motivating. Freedom to prosper and accumulate, and enjoy the pleasures of life. Those are the initial SEEDS! That is why we have the bumper-crop of SIN and corruption that we now see in this nation. (Of course there were always a remnant of honest, God-fearing individuals and families amongst the fray).

    We see the same diabolical stain of the "love of money" at the root of slavery. And we still have those same ugly stains of racial prejudice in our midst. Because the nation has never truly repented - and it never will. Oh sure, Hollywood puts out movies that favour the natives, that honor colored people, and even tries to comfort the feelings of "the south" (the confederates). But all the while, Hollywood is just making alot of money in behalf of Americas' morally cheap penance!

    But do you know what? God isn't interest in saving this, or any other "nation", except Israel. (Even then, it is only a "remnant" of natural Israel which will be saved - Romans 9:27).

    God's only interest is the "Holy Nation" of His born-again people that are called out and separated unto His Name. He is calling a nation out of a nation...a people out of every nation. Those who are truly His.

    If it was a "freedom of religion" that American were so concerned about, then we wouldn't have the "freedom of sin" that we now have in this country. The Power of true Christianity is FREEDOM FROM SIN, not freedom TO sin. But what is the heart-beat of North America now? It is "freedom of speech", "freedom of expression", and freedom to commit any and all forms of debauchery and filth mankind can dream up. It has gone wholly toward legalized and unbridled abominations.

    Just days and weeks after "9:11", after the Twin Towers went down and thousands of people were killed - what did that nation do? They had charity benefits to raise money and honor the deceased where filthy homosexuals and demonized rock musicians head-lined the events. Where people partied and carried on like those in Moses time when they frolicked around the golden calve. Even some of the fireman used the Lords' Name in vain on some of the news broadcasts. Then they made movies of the incident where the actors blasphemed the Lord's Name as though It meant nothing. At the same time, and in the same breath, they will say, "let's pray now, that God will bless us and help us".

    That is the main thrust and consciousness of America: to make "God" whatever you want Him to be and then undermine the Name of Jesus as though It was nothing but a swear word to express anger. Christian nation? No wonder other nations see America as an hypocritical mess of corruption.

    And then some common sinner makes a movie about the "Passion of Christ" and even the church world gets all awe-struck over it. It was nothing but a money-making scheme to seduce the emotionally weak and gullible. Most of the people that got all teary-eyed watching the movie were out the next day carrying on in their sinful, blasphemous lives as per usual. Make no mistake of it, no one gets truly SAVED unless the Holy Spirit draws them into the Revelation of the BIBLE - VERSION of Christ's death and resurrection. God doesn't need some high profile, celebrity sinner infiltrating our lives with Hollywood hypocrisy.

    What with all the churches in our country, all the T.V. ministries and such, you would think that there would be at least some semblance of the fear of God in our midst. But not a chance. Hollywood blasphemies the Name of Jesus, makes a mockery of Christianity and everything sacred, just as blatantly as a drunken heathen.

    If you want to see the true spirit of America, just look at what's on T.V. You'll see what America worships and accepts as "freedom". Homosexual and lesbian filth is rudely pushed into our homes (if you watch it) as though the perversion was in some way "normal". Male and female talk-show hosts making fun of Christians, or proclaiming a "jesus" that condones all of the low-life filth that goes on in Hollywood. World-renowned talk show hosts professing to be Christian and then condoning and supporting sex-changes and every kind of perversion. This is the harvest from the seeds that were sown a couple hundred years or more ago.

    Seriously, how far are you going to go back to find any semblance of a Christian foundation? So what, that Columbus discovered America? Or even realized that the earth was round from the Scriptures? That still has nothing to do with being a holy people, born-again, and honoring the absolute Truths and Purposes of Gods' kingdom.

    Yes, admittedly, there are many historians, even those with a Christan zeal, who could find all kinds of evidence of "founding fathers" from this nations' past who knew and loved the Lord. But, of course, only God knows the genuineness and extent of their relationship with Him; whether they were truly born-again, and such-like Scriptural requirements. But, none the less, these were INDIVIDUALS who may have truly known and Loved the Lord. And let it be clearly understood that God is, in fact, a God of "individuals". He is NOT a God of "denominations", of political, territorial Nations. It is not in Scripture. Yes, He is the God of Israel, but still - only those who are "true" Israel. Even of Israel...a "remnant" shall be saved. (Romans 9:6-27)

    But the Word declares that all other Nations "are as nothing...even less than nothing, and vanity". (Isaiah 40:17)

    But now, when these "individuals" band together, empowered and directed by God to "build the city of Zion" and frame together the Holy Temple of Christ's many-membered Body - then we have something that God approves of and delights to dwell in,. This is the only "nation" which will eventually inhabit and rule this planet. All other nations and political systems will be brought to nought...abolished, destroyed, burned. Those "systems" of governmental and financial structure will be done away with.

    Yes, the Earth will be salvaged and renovated and replenished. The land, the continents..are wonderful.. the grand expanses of land and water are magnificent, and to be cherished and enjoyed. But every corrupt system that now occupies this planet will be "burned up with fervent heat" (II Peter 3:10-13). And then even this planet will experience a kind of "rebirth". There will be a "new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness." (II Corrin. 5:17).

    But contrary to this Scriptural Truth, there seems to be a collective thrust toward somehow changing all the existing nations and systems to eventually serving, honoring and worshiping God. It's not going to happen! It's not in the plan...sorry. Read the Book. It's not there!

    One of the most damaging interpretations of Scripture can be found in most churchs' teaching of Haggai 2:7. The Scripture says, "And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lost of hosts". The mind-set and understanding of the majority of the Christan church world is that God is calling Jesus "the Desire of all nations." They even declare this to be one of His Names. Well, this simply is not true, and this interpretation is very misleading.

    If you look up the word "desire" (in your Concordance), you will see that it means "desirable ones", those INDIVIDUALS which God desires. Those INDIVIDUALS out of every nation who are called, chosen and DESIRABLE to God. They will come and fill His House.

    Deut. 30:3 confirms this: "That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee". See also Jeremiah 30:11; 29:14 and 46:28.

    Furthermore, many other Scriptures show how that Gods' fury is upon ALL the nations, and that He will execute His vengeance on them. Nowhere in Scripture do we see evidence that JESUS is "desired" by any Nation. May the WORD of Truth wash you of this damaging deception! Seek to understand God's heart and His ways.

    What our "thrust" needs to be, as Christians, is a SPIRITUAL thrust. We need to be "spiritually minded". Looking for "heavenly things". "Setting out affection on things above" Col. 3:2. Heavenly understanding, heavenly purposes. This earth will one day be a "heavenly" home, with God's system of Government replacing all others.

    What we see now on this planet has been built by the carnal mind. Every city and nations is built by carnal man with the "preservation of self" and "covetousness" at its' roots. Civilization as we now know it is so constructed to cater solely to our carnal needs, lusts and ambitions. But, the old will pass away and "all things will be made new". The heavens (where now dwells spiritual wickedness) must be cleansed, and the the Earth will be renewed. (Eph. 6:12)

    The present political involvement amongst Christians is forcing them into a state of carnal-mindedness, and misplaced, misdirected zeal and focus. It's wrong.

    Isaiah 24:18d "THE WINDOWS FROM ON HIGH ARE OPEN, AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH DO SHAKE..."

    It's like a man standing of the roof of a building, and then suddenly an earthquake comes and the building beneath him gives way. Meanwhile, a helicopter has come to hover over him even before the earthquake came, and has lowered a ladder for his soon needed rescue. There's only two things he can do...either go down with the crumbling building or grab onto the ladder and be lifted up. That's the condition the world is now in, and the choices we are faced with. We can go down with the decaying, failing systems of man, or be anchored, secure and focused upon the Eternal inheritance that God has made available to us.

    Now once again, there seems to be an overall collective consensus, even amongst Christians, that America is some kind of a Christian entity favored of God. That it was birthed and began as a Christian nation and now it is just backslidden. What utter fallacy and deception! There is no such thing in the Word of God. America is no different than any other nation. Except that perhaps it is unique in its' deceptively complex, hypocritical and unashamed sinfulness. No other nation claims to be so "favored and blessed of God" and yet is so boldly filthy in its' frivolity and sacrilege.

    So what am I saying? Quit wasting precious time trying to "save face" for America, and salvaging its' presumed Christian dignity...lest you go down with it! Because JUDGEMENT is surely and sorely coming to America. Just as surely as it came to Sodom and Gomorrah.

    The only safe place to be is in Jesus Christ; tucked away safe and sound within the Revelation and Reality of the Body of Christ. There's "safety" and "soundness" NO WHERE ELSE! And this divine Refuge is ONLY for those who are truly His.

    "Come, MY people, enter thou into thy chamber, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be over past." Isaiah 26:20

    "Neither the silver not their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lords' wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of His jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land". Zeph. 1:18.

    "Therefore wait ye upon Me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for My determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to POUR UPON THEM MINE INDIGNATION, even all My fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of My jealousy". Zeph. 3:8.





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  • At June 25, 2008 10:27 AM , Blogger Jenan said...

    We are well aware that God will use whomsoever He will to accomplish His purposes.

    I do believe that Senator Obama is God's choice for America at this time.

    My analysis of the Senator is:
    1. He is a true born-again child of God.
    2. He has a heart that is open to God.
    3. He is untutored in the things of God.

    My analysis of Mr. mcCain is:
    1. We make way too much of his war-time record. I feel afraid when I see Nationalism raised to the place of highest good.

    2. Is he indeed strong on national defence? Should you not say he is strong on "focusing on Iraq"? It is still debatable whether it is in the best interests of our national defence. Perhaps not even debatable.

    Evangelicals need to think outside the box. No longer should we automatically think "Republican"

    I believe that we/you need to continue a dialogue with Senator Obama. Even after his election to the Presidency. You might be surprised. God is at work.

    Jenan

     
  • At July 8, 2008 1:50 PM , Blogger Jessica said...

    I don't normally post 'comments' but after I read Mr.Strang's report on this Meeting with Mr. Obama I feel such a burden to pray for the body of Christ to be unified! There is a cause for concern when leaders in the body of Christ align themselves with someone who doesn't oppose issues that are obviously against the teachings of our Lord, and His word. We are called, as christians, to walk in wisdom, and discernment, especially our leaders. Such wisdom and discernment go beyond political 'barriers' and will most certainly bring us to take a stand for truth, and righteousness. No matter what denomination or background, all who confess His name are His children, and we must have the heart of our father on this matter! Even as I write this I am so aware of the awesome privelege that we have in this nation to choose our leaders, but when that choice is the lesser of two evils should we even choose? I don't pretend to know the answer to that question yet, but until I do I will only pledge my allegence to Jesus, and campaign for Him!!

     
  • At August 5, 2008 6:48 PM , Blogger Timuchin said...

    Obama has a Muslim and Christian background, so he had to meet with Christians and answer their questions straight up.

    He voted straight liberal Democrat and it looks like it got him into the nomination. He has the liberal Democrat vote in his pocket, so he was fishing in other areas.

    He also has the Muslim vote in his pocket. They assume he is lying about being a Christian to get the votes. The Koran gives them permission to lie to infidels.

    Likewise McCain assumes he will get the patriotic, Republican Christians so he is fishing for other voting blocks.

    Obama is not an American Black, so he doesn't have the slavery baggage. That's why he can be so calm and confident.

    We must remember that Nelson Mandela was a leftist who became a Christian in jail. He is still a strong Christian. He had to leave Winnie Mandela who remained a leftist. Obama will surprise us and might rise to the occasion.

    Now remember, whoever ends up as president will preside over a country that is falling out of empire status. Whoever is the president will have martial law and dictatorial powers to handle the collapse. Who has the moral fiber and self-control to rule justly?

     
  • At August 23, 2008 1:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Thanks..this was interesting reading.

    I am a bit “turned off” by the so called “evangelical leaders” of this country and their attacks on Mitt Romney. I see the deepest hypocrisy there----during the Saddle Back forum they talked about world religious persecution yet they cannot even face their own prejudice right here in this country. The fact that Mr. Romney’s religion is an issue shows me the so called “religious right” has a long way to go before they truly understand the teachings of Jesus Christ.

    But I enjoyed some of the blurbs and agree that McCain has a long way to go with these “so called” evangelical leaders---but I wonder who really has the farthest to go?

    RAY

     
  • At September 23, 2008 7:50 AM , Blogger Christopher said...

    Dear Brother Strang

    Thank you for an objective and balanced article!

     
  • At October 21, 2008 9:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

    America’s Children are at Risk

    Once upon a time there was an innocent child of 17 months – safe and secure in her mother’s care. That same child, now age 6, is in the battle of her life.

    Let me introduce Isabella, a bright, energetic first grader, who has spent all but her first 17 months living in Virginia, and all of her young life in the care of her biological mother, Lisa.

    The legal question in this case is which state’s laws govern, and pits Virginia’s Marriage Amendment against the civil union laws of the State of Vermont. Virginia’s Marriage Amendment says that all arrangements emerging from civil unions are null and void in Virginia. Lisa and Isabella live in Virginia, while the other party involved in this legal case, Janet, lives in Vermont.

    Our Virginia judges, including the judges of our Virginia Supreme Court, ignored our Virginia Marriage Amendment and have effectively ruled that Vermont’s laws apply. Vermont has ruled that Janet is a legal parent of Isabella, and Virginia has concurred; Vermont has ordered unsupervised visitation with Janet, and Virginia has concurred.

    Lisa has allowed a couple of visits, but it has been obvious that the visits have been detrimental to Isabella’s emotional and psychological stability. Lisa has since decided to obey God rather than man, and has discontinued the visits. This stand by Lisa puts her in jeopardy, which could result in her arrest for contempt of court.

    Let’s review the background, and how this case came to be. Because of Lisa’s childhood and a failed heterosexual marriage, she was told by a psychological professional that she must be homosexual. She acted on this counsel and joined in a homosexual relationship with Janet in Virginia. When Vermont enacted its civil union laws, masquerading for marriage, the couple took a weekend trip to Vermont to enter into such a civil union. Lisa and Janet then returned to Virginia.

    Lisa wanted to have a child, so she went through the rigors of in vitro fertilization, and Isabella was conceived and born in 2002. Isabella was born in Virginia, and her Virginia birth certificate officially designates only one parent – her biological mother, Lisa. Janet did not seek to adopt Isabella or be named as Isabella’s mother.

    The relationship between Janet and Lisa was not a healthy one, and Janet encouraged Lisa to move to Vermont hoping that things would work out. They lived there for just over a year. Again, Janet did not seek to adopt Isabella or be named as Isabella’s mother.

    Lisa encountered the Lord and was gloriously rescued from the bonds of homosexuality, left Janet and Vermont, and returned to Virginia. Once in Virginia, Lisa filed the paperwork in Vermont to dissolve the Vermont Civil Union, while Janet filed for full custody of Isabella, claiming she was a parent even though she was not.

    This case has been winding its way through the Vermont and Virginia courts for the past 5 years, and Lisa has been living with the uncertainty of who will raise Isabella. Lisa, being the biological parent, wants to raise her in a Christian home teaching her God’s Word and God’s design for marriage and family.

    On October 27, the Vermont court is set to rule that custody must be transferred from Lisa, Isabella’s biological mother, to Janet, a virtual stranger to Isabella. In light of his support of the advancement of the homosexual agenda, Governor Tim Kaine could then call on the National Guard to enforce the court order and physically take Isabella from Lisa.

    Does this outrage you? It should. If the government can do this, they could eventually decide who is to raise your child.

    This is a case of parental rights, states rights, religious rights and whether the homosexual agenda will be allowed to spread same-sex marriage and relationships across our country. The homosexual movement has not been as successful as they had hoped in stopping the various state marriage amendments from passing. They have been trying backdoor tactics to get one state to recognize what another state has enacted – civil unions on Vermont, same-sex marriage in Massachusetts and California.

    Will you stand in the gap for Lisa and Isabella and all the other women and children who will be affected by an adverse ruling by Virginia? Pray with us that our government officials in Richmond will stand up and take the bull by the horns and say a resounding “NO” to our activist judges.

    The battle has come to Virginia, and we passed a very strict Marriage Amendment, which we all thought would protect our children.

    Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    This case may become the “Roe v. Wade” of the homosexual agenda. Thirty years from now, do you want to be asked the question, “Where were you when the children were taken away?”

    What will you do?

    For more information contact me at jandavis25@verizon.net

     
  • At October 25, 2008 1:31 PM , Blogger Ricky said...

    Steve Strang would better serve his purposes by reaching the untold masses that are unsaved and marginalized in this right wing error. He hides behind the bible and his 'enticing words of mens wisdom' Steve is another of the holier than thou. Go Obama you are a man the hour - A MAN OF GOD! AND AMERICA'S NEXT PRESIDENT. GOD BLESS

     
  • At October 25, 2008 6:54 PM , Blogger Phil said...

    As a committed Christian, I will be supporting the man in this election who has demonstrated more honesty, integrity, thoughtful insightedness, respect for those who disagree with him and servant leadership than his opponent. This man is clearly and obviously Barak Obama.

     
  • At October 26, 2008 6:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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    Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?

    by Orson Scott Card

    October 20, 2008
    An open letter to the local daily paper -- almost every local daily paper in America:

    I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

    This housing crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

    It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

    What is a risky loan? It's a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

    The goal of this rule change was to help the poor -- which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can't repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can't make the payments, they lose the house -- along with their credit rating.

    They end up worse off than before.

    This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

    Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It's as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

    Isn't there a story here? Doesn't journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren't you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

    I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. "Housing-gate," no doubt. Or "Fannie-gate."

    Instead, it was Sen. Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

    As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled "Do Facts Matter?" (http://snipurl.com/457to): "Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury."

    These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was ... the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was ... the Republican Party.

    Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

    What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

    Now let's follow the money ... right to the presidential candidate who is the number two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

    And after Fred Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

    If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

    But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an "adviser" to the Obama campaign -- because that campaign had sought his advice -- you actually let Obama's people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn't listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

    You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

    If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

    If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

    There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension -- so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

    If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

    Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

    But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie -- that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad -- even bad weather -- on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

    If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth -- even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

    Because that's what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don't like the probable consequences. That's what honesty means. That's how trust is earned.

    Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time -- and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

    Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter -- while you ignored the story of John Edwards' own adultery for many months.

    So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

    Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

    You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women (NOW) threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

    That's where you are right now.

    It's not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

    If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

    Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation's prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama's door.

    You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

    This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

    If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe -- and vote as if -- President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

    If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats -- including Barack Obama -- and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans -- then you are not journalists by any standard.

    You're just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it's time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a daily newspaper in our city.

     

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